Kevin Dean Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Our Drummer is also our main singer , He is swapping from using His Electric Roland Kit to an Acoustic Kit , at the moment He just uses a SM58 I was just wondering if He should be using something else ....I guess we will soon find out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) A hypercardioid pickup pattern (your SM58 is cardioid, meaning the pickup pattern is slightly wider, and the mic doesn't reject as much extraneous noise as a hypercardioid pickup pattern) would certainly help the microphone to reject noise from anywhere except the front of the microphone getting to the mixer - which means you spend less time trying to eliminate it further down the line. Beyer MD201s used to be my weapon of choice for such an event, but it's been a while since I've needed to use one. Try your 58 first though, no point spending money to fix a problem until you [i]know[/i] it's a problem. Edited August 29, 2015 by paul_5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 My drummer uses an SM58 for vocals. I've never noticed any issues with his acoustic kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephantgrey Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 The sound guy part of me dies a little every time I see a drummer/singer. I think the way 'best' way I've seen it done was a cardioid mic (like a sm58) set with the stand attached to the kit in a way that it pointed up at him, away from the snare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobVbass Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 SM58 Beta is what I use and our drummer borrows my spare when he forgets his SM58 - both are fine; Beta sounds clearer though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 If you want the kit to bleed into the mic then the SM58 allows this. Sometimes this isn't a bad thing... but for lead vox, I don't like the standard 58 so much. No decent singer I know uses one, tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassintheface Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 We use a Shure Beta 57. Just to ensure there's less kit bleed through the mic than when using a 58 or beta 58. All other vocals use a 58 beta though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Starr Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I'm a live sound engineer turned bassist and backing singer. It's shifted my opinions on mics. First i'm assuming you are looking in the £70-150 sort of price range. The Sm58 isn't up to it any more in terms of sound quality, just not enough detail. People like it because it is what they know, and you need to know a mic almost as well as a guitar, and just like a guitar/bass some people will get more out of a s*** instrument than a poor player gets out of a good one. There's one other good thing about an SM58 though and that is that it is a cardioid, what this means is that you don't have to be so tight to the mic to get a decent sound. From the point of view of an engineer the tighter the mic pattern the better in terms of avoiding extraneous noise and feedback but as a performer needing to be 'on' the mic all the time is really distracting and if you move a lot when performing you'll get a lot of poor vocals as you constantly move off the mic's sweet spot. Drummers move a lot so I'm suggesting you look at whether this is an issue. It's all compromise but the ease of use may be a bigger factor than the need to avoid drum bleed through the mic. I've ended up with the Sennheiser 935 http://en-uk.sennheiser.com/vocal-microphone-dynamic-cardioid-e-935 which is very tolerant and neutral sounding. FWIW the Shure Beta58 is described as super cardioid by Shure but is pretty nearly cardioid and sounds much better than the 58. I've also used the AKG D5 which sounds great but needs good mic technique, it is a real bargain though at it's low price. I grabbed it by mistake last night though and struggled to dance, play bass and sing at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike257 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I'm a big fan of the D5 too, got four in my mic box and they're my go-to live vocal mic when I'm mixing bands. Nice tight pickup pattern so will minimise spill from the kit and hopefully give you a bit more gain before feedback to play with too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 After trying a loads of mics out last year I bought the TC Helicon 75. Lovely thing, and really suits my voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelfin Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Have you thought about some type of headset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 Thanks for all the advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Starr Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Let us know what you do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kevin Dean Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 At the moment we are sticking with the SM58 as we have the bass drum mic'd up & the slight bleed through seems to work well but it's early days . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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