wateroftyne Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I admit I'm tempted by this, but from what I've read there's been no great advance in the spec of the power section, so.. I think I'll hang on for the next generation of modules to come through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passinwind Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1446912180' post='2903456'] I admit I'm tempted by this, but from what I've read there's been no great advance in the spec of the power section, so.. I think I'll hang on for the next generation of modules to come through. [/quote] Since this amp is the among the very first releases to use the newest ICE module, your wait should only be five years or so. Edited November 7, 2015 by Passinwind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 [quote name='Passinwind' timestamp='1446930916' post='2903644'] Since this amp is the among the very first releases to use the newest ICE module, your wait should only be five years or so. [/quote] Heh... yeah, that's the problem. I dunno - I might really like this when I hear it, but (as we've chatted about via PM) it needs to be a real advance from what I've heard already to ring my bell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passinwind Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1446931549' post='2903647'] Heh... yeah, that's the problem. I dunno - I might really like this when I hear it, but (as we've chatted about via PM) it needs to be a real advance from what I've heard already to ring my bell... [/quote] As I've said before, I think it 's really mostly about the whole design, not what power amp module someone is using. But in any case, I prefer to give any new amp design around two years to get wrung out before I'll even consider buying it (used), and these days I am already extremely happy with what I have. Beyond that, I would be very unlikely to buy anything that's not in rack mount format. But as usual, it seems that my tastes have little to do with the mainstream. Edited November 8, 2015 by Passinwind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) So Mesa offer a 2 ohm switch but the ASC70 minimum load is 2.5 ohms? it looks a good amp but there does not seem to be enough room for smoke and mirrors in that box. Maybe a 2 ohm loading will allow the smoke to come out? Passinwind, you must have the designer manual for the ASC700. Is 2 ohms possible? Edited November 8, 2015 by Chienmortbb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passinwind Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) [quote name='Chienmortbb' timestamp='1446980251' post='2903836'] So Mesa offer a 2 ohm switch but the ASC70 minimum load is 2.5 ohms? it looks a good amp but there does not seem to be enough room for smoke and mirrors in that box. Maybe a 2 ohm loading will allow the smoke to come out? Passinwind, you must have the designer manual for the ASC700. Is 2 ohms possible? [/quote] 2 ohms is no problem at all and the Bergantino amp offers that as well -- you just have to add an external current limiter. There is no design manual per se AFAIK and the spec sheet/wiring diagram is most likely for a stock config with no extra heatsink or fan, and with the stock built in limiter, which would not be a very smart way to build if stable 2 ohm operation is a priority. Edited November 8, 2015 by Passinwind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1446931549' post='2903647'] Heh... yeah, that's the problem. I dunno - I might really like this when I hear it, but (as we've chatted about via PM) it needs to be a real advance from what I've heard already to ring my bell... [/quote] ... and in your case, regardless of the power unit used - what would it do that the walkabout doesn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1447023297' post='2904285'] ... and in your case, regardless of the power unit used - what would it do that the walkabout doesn't? [/quote] That's a very good point. I guess not - I'd be changing for the sake of it, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1447056882' post='2904369'] That's a very good point. I guess not - I'd be changing for the sake of it, really. [/quote] i keep seeing rigs and going ooooo - but then wonder what it would improve over what ive got Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1447056882' post='2904369'] That's a very good point. I guess not - I'd be changing for the sake of it, really. [/quote] And we know what happens a week later... I'm the same, though - I only realised when I came to tell someone recently that I've had 11 heads in the time I've had my Streamliner - good job I kept it to compare, otherwise I'd have been frantically trying to get another. And they're a lot more commonplace than your Walkabout... Edited November 9, 2015 by Muzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1447056882' post='2904369'] I guess not - I'd be changing for the sake of it, really. [/quote] Surely not. Bass players are far to intelligent to do such things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 Just got an email from Bass Gear RRP is £739.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Ouch. On the other hand, it's saved me from some serious GAS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderpaws Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 699 from Bax-shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 [quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1448555912' post='2916446'] Ouch. On the other hand, it's saved me from some serious GAS... [/quote] Westside Distribution price control is always awful, but the Streamliner and Shuttles were £699 so it's in the same bracket really. Don't think anyone moaned about Genz prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) Were they £460 in the States st the time? Edited November 28, 2015 by Muzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepbass5 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 As pointed out by Muzz above - I don't see this being anything to drag me away from the Mark bass I have gigged for ten years, Mesa have just adopted their VPF from the description on the youtube demo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Same for my amps. The TH500 works perfectly with my Bergantino cabs but doesn't sound so good with the Barefaced cabs. The Thunderfunk works really well with any cab I've owned. If the Subway can outperform either of those amps with both sets of cabs then it's on the Wanted List. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1448804450' post='2918241'] Same for my amps. The TH500 works perfectly with my Bergantino cabs but doesn't sound so good with the Barefaced cabs. The Thunderfunk works really well with any cab I've owned. [b]If the Subway can outperform either of those amps with both sets of cabs then it's on the Wanted List.[/b] [/quote] I'm getting the impression that it will not offer much more than the rest of the stuff at that pricepoint... or not enough to change. The TF550-B is a very good amp...and better made than the rest of the stuff, likely mentioned here, so if you like that amp...and I did... then I'm thinking Emporers new clothes..? The only amp I'd offer you look at would be the Demeter.but accept how good the Mesa is is conjecture at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Yep - I've looked into it and I've decided there's nothing here to ring my bell. If it had a new cutting-edge power unit, I might have been interested, but... meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjelkeman Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Myself I am the opposite. Something that is lighter than my M9 and can be brought near the same sound territory. Colour me interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essexbasscat Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Has anyone on BC tested the D800 yet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanA Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Looks like Bassgear have them... Posted on Facebook earlier😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepbass5 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Despite my personal reservations on its functional flexibility over my existing amps. It is here and priced to sell. If it sounds as good as the promo videos indicate it should do well. I did say its a bit late to the party, but when you see the Mark bass,Tone hammers and TechAmps for sale here - we all get bored quickly and want a change so they are bound to benefit from new year GAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Boogie have worked hard to build a very strong brand. I reckon that will make a big difference, as people like to be associated with a good brand name. I don't doubt that the product will be good, but that's often not the main factor influencing the purchase decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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