TimR Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 [quote name='bassman7755' timestamp='1442341392' post='2866250'] We tend to forget that guitars and bases are very cheap compared to brass and classical instruments, people who I know who have played sax for example say they wouldn't touch anything under about 1.5k [/quote] The construction of those instruments is usually by hand and the tone is very dependent on construction and materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky2 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Couldn't give two shits if anyone out front knows how much my gear cost.... It's how comfortable it is for me to play and that usually brings out the best in my playing..... And that's what they should be hearing... But this view does fall on its arse as soon as you plug in the squire p bass which may be set up sweet and play beautifully, but the output is just thin and hollow sounding??? Amplification/ cabinet is important , I'm sure I can get great tones from my mesa that would be just impossible from an old Carlsbo or the HandH I had 25 years ago when I started.....why would my bass be any different. End of the day it's horses for courses..... I have it coz i likes it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 [quote name='Wonky2' timestamp='1442434849' post='2867003'] Couldn't give two shits . I have it coz i likes it. [/quote] I hope you don't mind, I fixed it for you ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 [quote name='Wonky2' timestamp='1442434849' post='2867003'] But this view does fall on its arse as soon as you plug in the squire p bass which may be set up sweet and play beautifully, but the output is just thin and hollow sounding??? [/quote] What are you saying here? Seems contentious, snobby and provocative on the surface but perhaps it's just badly worded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubrad Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 [quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1441484642' post='2859231'] ... Fantastic bit of gear snobbery regarding cheap basses, though. .. [/quote] [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1441314369' post='2857932'] ... Ped wouldn't have any money to buy nice cakey things from Greggs... [/quote] Veering slightly OT, but kinda still very much following on there, Ped uses Greggs? Shocking! Never set foot in the place myself, unless there's nowt else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky2 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 [quote name='ubit' timestamp='1442475407' post='2867162'] I hope you don't mind, I fixed it for you ! [/quote] Hahaha Yep ...... that'll do pig, that'll do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky2 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) [quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1442479666' post='2867205'] What are you saying here? Seems contentious, snobby and provocative on the surface but perhaps it's just badly worded? [/quote] Scratch beneath that surface and it says the same thing.... Nothing snobby or provocative about it, it's just my opinion having attempted to play with both. Not trying to provoke anyone Edited September 17, 2015 by Wonky2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bassman7755 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) [quote name='TimR' timestamp='1442355843' post='2866388'] The construction of those instruments is usually by hand and the tone is very dependent on construction and materials. [/quote] The ins and outs of why the various instruments cost what they do is beside the point, which is ... How can spending a couple of grand on a bass be viewed in some way as "excessive" when this is the sort of amount routinely spent on a brass or classical instrument. Edited September 17, 2015 by bassman7755 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 [quote name='hubrad' timestamp='1442480606' post='2867214'] Ped uses Greggs? Shocking! [/quote] He's not proud. As would be instantly obvious, if you saw him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 [quote name='bassman7755' timestamp='1442519761' post='2867590'] The ins and outs of why the various instruments cost what they do is beside the point, which is ... How can spending a couple of grand on a bass be viewed in some way as "excessive" when this is the sort of amount routinely spent on a brass or classical instrument. [/quote] Ok. We could take Flutes. My wife plays flute. Grade 8 standard. Her flute was £3,600 in the mid 90s. About that time you could buy a student flute for around £250. Current prices suggest around £5k and £500. I can assure you that all musical instruments have budget and proffesional end instruments. Excessive is really dependant on your viewpoint but the difference in instruments is remarkable and obvious even to a non player. Is a Rolex at £70k excessive? My watch was £250, and my backup watch was £80. My running watch, however, was a bit more pricey. This thread is more of an interesting look at human nature and how different we all are than a pure discussion on the merits of different basses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9btkeN05-8[/media] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mentalextra Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I suppose if you were looking to promote your youtube channel, trolling on forums would be a good way to start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I like him. I agree and disagree with what he says, but as long as it's funny that rant humour works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockfordStone Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 talkbass only managed 8 pages.. think they saw sense earlier than we did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelfin Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 [quote name='RockfordStone' timestamp='1442914797' post='2870401'] talkbass only managed 8 pages.. think they saw sense earlier than we did [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I saw a very unfunny one from him this morning about text messages to sound recordists. Didn't translate very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I'm amazed anyone uses his studio at all. One wrong comment and he'll lambast you on youtube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 [quote name='mrtcat' timestamp='1442916886' post='2870430'] I'm amazed anyone uses his studio at all. One wrong comment and he'll lambast you on youtube. [/quote] I do wonder - is he trying to build up the Youtube videos and T-shirt sales in order to compensate for a not exactly stuffed studio schedule? Of course, now I've said that he'll probably bitch about it in a video! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mentalextra Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 [quote name='mrtcat' timestamp='1442916886' post='2870430'] I'm amazed anyone uses his studio at all. One wrong comment and he'll lambast you on youtube. [/quote] Unless you stuff your huge bosom in a tiny leather top! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 [quote name='Wonky2' timestamp='1442434849' post='2867003'] But this view does fall on its arse as soon as you plug in the squire p bass which may be set up sweet and play beautifully, but the output is just thin and hollow sounding???[/quote] Not the Matt Freeman P bass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 [quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1442917093' post='2870436'] I do wonder - is he trying to build up the Youtube videos and T-shirt sales in order to compensate for a not exactly stuffed studio schedule? Of course, now I've said that he'll probably bitch about it in a video! [/quote] Seems to me he's just doing Stand Up (I know he's sitting down!) and having fun. I've thought most of what he says at one time or another in the last 20 years. It's just an aggressive satire. I would have thought everyone would know his routines are based on well known stereo types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1442928157' post='2870611'] Seems to me he's just doing Stand Up (I know he's sitting down!) and having fun. I've thought most of what he says at one time or another in the last 20 years. It's just an aggressive satire. I would have thought everyone would know his routines are based on well known stereo types. [/quote] Yeah, possibly. I actually agree with a lot of what he says, and there are times when adopting that kind of attitude can be the most effective way of getting your point across. I'm just not quite picking up on any warmth underneath the bluster though - maybe it's just not my type of humour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 [quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1442929216' post='2870627'] Yeah, possibly. I actually agree with a lot of what he says, and there are times when adopting that kind of attitude can be the most effective way of getting your point across. I'm just not quite picking up on any warmth underneath the bluster though - maybe it's just not my type of humour. [/quote] He's American. The thing about satire is on the surface the generalisations and stereotypes work and hence are funny. Bass players aren't stupid though. Some of us can type. So that's the first of his 'jokes' blown clear out of the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 This thread is the "gift that keeps on giving". Think I'll come back in a month and see if its still going around in circles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 He choosing to put his time into the wrong things, imagine the good he could do with that passion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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