JTUK Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 He basically plays the same thing every time ..so not much of a study. His right hand is very good..his left hand is pretty much a clamp and pretty basic. But... in that clip...it is his choice of fills that totally destroys it. Just as well most of them would be 'mixed' out... but as a study, it is not watchable. Having said that..fans will love it warts and all..but boy..are there some warts.. IMHO.. Suffice to say, was never a fan... but what he and Moon had you couldn't teach.. but whether you'd want to or rather, should, is another thing..!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Have to admit that although I love the song, the fills are a bit much. In a sortof band I play with we do that, and I`ve cut down the bassline, makes it punctuate a lot better. But then, for one we have 2 gtrs and keys, and secondly I haven`t learnt the full bassline anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 he's far to busy for me, how him and Moon worked as a unit is a mystery, normally if you've got a busy drummer a simple bass line is required, never been a massive fan of the Who, perhaps this is why, hardly a solid rhythm section was it? Loved the tone though, but then again that wouldn't work in some bands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I'm surprised at the comments about his poor tone. Is this not EQ'd for a band mix and not meant to be heard in isolation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1441983354' post='2863541'] I'm surprised at the comments about his poor tone. Is this not EQ'd for a band mix and not meant to be heard in isolation? [/quote] Tru, dat, but is that not bordering on the heretic to offer up such a pertinent observation on BC..? How else is all this spleen to be let..? Edited September 11, 2015 by Dad3353 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr zed Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1441983354' post='2863541'] I'm surprised at the comments about his poor tone. Is this not EQ'd for a band mix and not meant to be heard in isolation? [/quote] Couldn't agree more! How many threads have we had discussing tone when noodling at home and tone to cut through in a band situation. The tone JE has here will cut through like a hot knife through butter. Wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonsmith Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Yes, the tone is probably best heard in a band context. I enjoyed the playing, even if there were a few sloppy bits. Actually, most of these isolated bass parts from all sorts of highly regarded bass players seem to have timing errors and all sorts of clicks, pops and squeaks. It makes me feel a lot better about my own parts when I hear them in isolation. I think it's these little imperfections that help give a recording energy and keep it exciting. With a rhythm section like The Who, there are certainly plenty of them. However, there's no doubt that they manage to convey a lot of energy and excitement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1441983354' post='2863541'] I'm surprised at the comments about his poor tone. Is this not EQ'd for a band mix and not meant to be heard in isolation? [/quote] He was, in the beginning, known for his tone. His bass sound on My Generation and the Rotosound thing were major bass milestones. I didn't think the Alembic type goal worked myself, but then I'd say the same about McVie as well.. Alembic thing or their technique..?? But I recall getting ripped apart in the studio when my sound and technique were solo'd.. I've never forgotten it but possibly it never happened to certain bass plpayers as they were too big to be criticized when new technology exposed these sorts of things..?? In the solo'd clip, it isn't the tone that worries me so much... it is the rest of it.... - worry is too strong a word, but I don't rate it whichever way you skin it. In the grand scheme of things..?? it is just BC banter. He seemed to do well out of it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 [quote name='mr zed' timestamp='1441988027' post='2863608'] Couldn't agree more! How many threads have we had discussing tone when noodling at home and tone to cut through in a band situation. [/quote] There's also the odd thread about being in front of or behind the beat, which I suspect is what's behind what may appear as sloppy timing in isolation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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