LewisK1975 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Anybody else done this? Thinking about changing my Tecamp PUMA for something like the TC RH750 so I can lose my tuner pedal, compressor pedal and possibly others too, I use a sansamp para driver at the end of the board for tone shaping and a bit of grit. My PUMA is set totally flat, so only really functioning as a power amp and DI - I've heard the RH750 has a more 'rock n roll' tone signature anyway and it also has the 'tube tone' feature so could possibly fill the gap left by the sansamp.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Makes sense - the RH750 is a nice amp, and easily capable of doing all you`re after. Jennie Innie posted a clip of her sound on here - think she called it shock and awe - and it was great. If a search doesn`t find it maybe message her, see if she can help out on tracking it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 The only thing I can thing of is that the compressor might not be in the right place in the signal chain for you if it is in the amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisK1975 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1441978686' post='2863485'] Makes sense - the RH750 is a nice amp, and easily capable of doing all you`re after. Jennie Innie posted a clip of her sound on here - think she called it shock and awe - and it was great. If a search doesn`t find it maybe message her, see if she can help out on tracking it down. [/quote] Cheers I'll have a lookie! [quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1441979080' post='2863489'] The only thing I can thing of is that the compressor might not be in the right place in the signal chain for you if it is in the amp. [/quote] I hadn't considered that to be honest so thanks! at the moment it's last but one before the sansamp - should see if I can find a block layout of the RH750 and see how it differs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r16ktx Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1441978686' post='2863485'] Makes sense - the RH750 is a nice amp, and easily capable of doing all you`re after. Jennie Innie posted a clip of her sound on here - think she called it shock and awe - and it was great. If a search doesn`t find it maybe message her, see if she can help out on tracking it down. [/quote] http://basschat.co.uk/topic/254538-barefaced-retro-two10-shock-and-awe-bass-sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bassman7755 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) [quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1441979080' post='2863489'] The only thing I can thing of is that the compressor might not be in the right place in the signal chain for you if it is in the amp. [/quote] I presume the OP would not use a drive pedal like the sans amp when using the RH, really there would little point as their both doing essentially the same job (and both do it very well indeed). Any other effects he still uses could go in the RH effects loop which would put them after the compressor. The RH compressor is a really good one too being multiband its more transparent like a mastering compressor. Edited September 12, 2015 by bassman7755 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisK1975 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Thanks for taking the time to reply gents. All food for thought! Also gotta find an RH750 to try out too. There is a s/h one in Bass direct, but it looks like their only selling the complete rig of amp+2 cabs at the moment, maybe i'll drop 'em a line and see if they'll consider splitting the rig.. Bassman7755 is correct I'd be looking to drop at least the Sansamp, Tu-3, and MXR comp. I'd still need some kind of board though, coz I have the billy sheehan EBS pedal which I do really like..hmmmm Edited September 14, 2015 by LewisK1975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Is your pedalboard bigger than this? If not, it clearly doesn't need downsizing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 [quote name='LewisK1975' timestamp='1442238202' post='2865366'] Thanks for taking the time to reply gents. All food for thought! Also gotta find an RH750 to try out too. There is a s/h one in Bass direct, but it looks like their only selling the complete rig of amp+2 cabs at the moment, maybe i'll drop 'em a line and see if they'll consider splitting the rig.. Bassman7755 is correct I'd be looking to drop at least the Sansamp, Tu-3, and MXR comp. I'd still need some kind of board though, coz I have the billy sheehan EBS pedal which I do really like..hmmmm [/quote] There was one on the Facebook Bass Players market yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) This one, not mine, logistics to be worked out between you and seller. You may need to scroll down quite a bit, it moves fast on that page https://www.facebook.com/groups/689090051102626/ Edited September 15, 2015 by karlfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 A Zoom MS-60B could do tuner and compressor duty... Have you tried the "Taste" control on the Puma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisK1975 Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 [quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1442314919' post='2865934'] Is your pedalboard bigger than this? If not, it clearly doesn't need downsizing! [/quote] Haha Alex - True! I've only got 6 pedals so I don't know what I'm worried about really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisK1975 Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 [quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1442317314' post='2865967'] There was one on the Facebook Bass Players market yesterday. [/quote] [quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1442318022' post='2865979'] This one, not mine, logistics to be worked out between you and seller. You may need to scroll down quite a bit, it moves fast on that page [url="https://www.facebook.com/groups/689090051102626/"]https://www.facebook...89090051102626/[/url] [/quote] Thanks Chaps - I'll cast by beady eye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisK1975 Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 [quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1442320452' post='2865999'] A Zoom MS-60B could do tuner and compressor duty... Have you tried the "Taste" control on the Puma? [/quote] I have found the taste control quite useful as a quick way of taking out room 'boom' - without the sansamp though, it didn't get me anywhere near where I wanted to be.... I'm finding the PUMA's eq generally much more suited to eq'ing for the room rather than sound shaping. I don't know guys - I think after years of using trace and then ashdown stuff - neutral / flat sounds just don't do it for me - therefore feeding my Barefaced super compacts with a PUMA was never really going to work for me was it . Might even be better off sticking with my pedal board, DI'ing to the Desk from the Sansamp and using in ears! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I must try the RH750 again. I had one and didn't get on with it, but I've liked every demo I've heard. So I'm guessing it didn't get on well with the cabs I had at the time - I had a pair of Mark Bass Club 121 cabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 [quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1442414669' post='2866801'] I must try the RH750 again. I had one and didn't get on with it, but I've liked every demo I've heard. So I'm guessing it didn't get on well with the cabs I had at the time - I had a pair of Mark Bass Club 121 cabs.[/quote] What I've noticed about both the RH450 and RH750 is that they have a very distinctive feel - there's quite a lot of compression and stuff going on in there. For me they didn't respond to my hands the way I wanted them to - it sounded more like a recording of me than me playing live. However some bassists really like what they do so it's definitely a personal preference thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandad Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I used a Zoom B3 into a PJB PB300 yesterday. It was the first time I had ever tried out a bass pedal. I now have the task of exploring all the possibilities this foolish act has opened up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I'm a bit of a compression junkie so that appealed to me before I owned one. I'd be interested to try one with my Bergs. I play a lot with a local educational music trust band / orchestra and there just isn't room for pedal boards. I like clip on tuners but when 20 odd instruments are tuning up the vibrations in the room ruin the efficiency. I love the idea of having a tuner, compression and a bit of warm drive in the head. I'll have to borrow one to give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bassman7755 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 [quote name='LewisK1975' timestamp='1442414462' post='2866797'] I don't know guys - I think after years of using trace and then ashdown stuff - neutral / flat sounds just don't do it for me - therefore feeding my Barefaced super compacts with a PUMA was never really going to work for me was it . [/quote] Well you need to think of the puma/compact combo as a blank canvas which is capable of pretty much anything when given the right input. You could consider keeping that rig and fronting it with a really good multi-effects unit like the zoom B3 (this is kind of the direction I'm thinking of going myself), that would still keep setup complexity reasonably low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillento Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) I would consider two things: - how do I send my signal to the FOH mixing desk? - do I need to carry a pedal board AND and a specific to get my sound or is everything I need on a board? Do you want to include drive and/or compression with your DI Signal, you'd have to go POST EQ, which may limit your stage EQ options in order not to mess with the DI Signal I always send my signal pre eq (even pre amp) to the desk. My whole processing is done on my board, mainly with an RMI Basswitch an a Tech21 VTBass. So I can use any (provided) backline amp to adress stage acoustics issues without bothering about the DI signal In case the monitoring is good, use no amp at all. Edited September 17, 2015 by gillento Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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