Dood Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 On 11/12/2017 at 09:29, LewisK1975 said: Out of interest, what cases are you guys preferring for the Helix / LT? I'd like one with a detachable lid ideally, any recommendations? I saw the one on Thomann when I did a quick google... https://www.thomann.de/gb/thon_case_line6_helix_lt.htm?glp=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA9rjRBRAeEiwA2SV4ZTKjBgPqyGkj8QgWo49Fyptbwrt_kfRWuc1Byux-rzAf-w1u-TZNYxoCkVoQAvD_BwE I wanted to fit a few extra pedals and stuff in so I bought one of these: http://www.spider-engineering.co.uk/industry/product.asp?item=spider-guitar-effects-pedal-board-flight-case-extra-large-7628-4748 It's heavy but bloody brilliant! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Oh, you could buy the 'large' case instead that I think is still ok for LT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I also meant to say that you can leave LT in the case. or there's a ply pedal board that lifts out. I've fixed my LT and pedals to the ply using the bicycle chain method and the whole thing stays in the case all the time. I lift the lid off and I am ready to go! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 On 10/12/2017 at 17:33, Kebabkid said: As a guitarist first and foremost and bassist second, I'm wondering whether an LT is the way to go to serve both my needs. An Aguilar bass amp is something I'd love and so to find one in here with the latest update and having people here who've owned the "real thing" before saying it's convincing is a great endorsement. Forgive me, as the thread is so many pages in and I haven't read all of it, can I ask are there any guitarist/bassists here that are using the unit for both and if so, what's your choice of speaker (QSC, Yamaha) to handle both jobbies for gigs? For just the bassists, what's been the popular choice of speaker with these? I keep finding it hard to find the most up to date list of bass amps and fx. Any handy links to these? Cheers 'm using a Yamaha DXR10 for both and am finding it very good. As with most at that price point it has a fan which can be a little annoying if playing when watching the TV I'm halfway wondering whether to upgrade to the Barefaced FR800 but I want to try that with guitar first. At some point I'll have to arrange a trip to BF and take my Helix with me to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kebabkid Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On 11/12/2017 at 09:29, LewisK1975 said: Out of interest, what cases are you guys preferring for the Helix / LT? I'd like one with a detachable lid ideally, any recommendations? I saw the one on Thomann when I did a quick google... https://www.thomann.de/gb/thon_case_line6_helix_lt.htm?glp=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA9rjRBRAeEiwA2SV4ZTKjBgPqyGkj8QgWo49Fyptbwrt_kfRWuc1Byux-rzAf-w1u-TZNYxoCkVoQAvD_BwE I've got a fusion bag. It was originally designed for a Dj controller but fits the helix like a glove. Its got so many cool extras like a zip in/out laptop bag, headphones bag, endless pockets etc. Build quality is exceptional too. Doesn't have a lift off lid but there's a few dj controller cases out there that do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 23 hours ago, fretmeister said: 'm using a Yamaha DXR10 for both and am finding it very good. As with most at that price point it has a fan which can be a little annoying if playing when watching the TV Now that's a first world problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Mine arrived yesterday, it sounds amazing out of the box so I can't wait to get fiddling with the settings! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, charic said: Mine arrived yesterday, it sounds amazing out of the box so I can't wait to get fiddling with the settings! YAY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisK1975 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, charic said: Mine arrived yesterday, it sounds amazing out of the box so I can't wait to get fiddling with the settings! 12 minutes ago, dood said: YAY! Yay indeed! It's a fantastic piece of kit. I'm now trying to decide which of my separate pedals / boards to keep/sell, still feel the need to keep a small pedal board for those gigs where floor space is a premium! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intime-nick Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 As a treat to myself, I'm thinking of getting a Helix LT and using that as an excuse to sell the mountain of gear i've accumulated over the years. The only thing that's slightly nagging me is that I've had a Kemper rack before & sold it because i found it a bit of a chore to program and i ended up using only a couple of sounds (i'm no technophobe - in fact pretty much the opposite). I'm trying to migrate the rest of our band towards a quieter backline and/or IEMs and let our PA do most of the work - the drummer is already on a Jobecky e-kit and one of the guitarists is swaying towards a Helix style arrangement. I already run an IEM setup and would quite happily ditch my backline if i can prove a point. Might be a daft question but could i run my bass and one of the guitars through the LT at the same time to demonstrate how a quieter backline may work (and to show the other valve amp obsessed guitarist that he doesn't need to run his Vox AC30 at full chat to get 'his' tone !!) Also, any more issues with the LT expression pedal breaking ? - i read a bit about a duff batch of LT's having broken pedals but i assume that's all fixed now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I *think* you can run through one side each... although I've not had a chance to try it yet! Just make sure whatever is replacing the backline is up to the job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 41 minutes ago, intime-nick said: Might be a daft question but could i run my bass and one of the guitars through the LT at the same time to demonstrate how a quieter backline may work (and to show the other valve amp obsessed guitarist that he doesn't need to run his Vox AC30 at full chat to get 'his' tone !!) Also, any more issues with the LT expression pedal breaking ? - i read a bit about a duff batch of LT's having broken pedals but i assume that's all fixed now ? As a valve-amp-obsessed guitarist (as well as Class-D-using bassist), I would be happy for you to demonstrate the LT, before returning to my 12W valve combo (or 15W for bigger gigs). Never underestimate the conservatism (small c) of guitarists compared to bass players! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intime-nick Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, JapanAxe said: As a valve-amp-obsessed guitarist (as well as Class-D-using bassist), I would be happy for you to demonstrate the LT, before returning to my 12W valve combo (or 15W for bigger gigs). Never underestimate the conservatism (small c) of guitarists compared to bass players! believe me, i don't underestimate it one bit (although I do question a lot of the rationale behind it) - it's an ongoing discussion we have regarding why we need a 100W 4x12 on one side and a very loud AC30 head into a 2x12 on the other....if they played 12/15W combos there would be no discussion and i wouldn't have to play the volume game with my BF Super Twin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 You can run 2 instruments - use the main input for one and the Aux in (full fat) or a Loop return (LT) for the other. Then Just set Path A for 1 instrument, and Path B for the other and keep them completely separate. Just remember to also set the outputs separately as well so they go to different board channels. If neither path is stereo then just split left and right on the XLRs. If, for example the bass is mono but the guitar is stereo then use the 1/4 outputs for 1, and the XLRs for the other 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intime-nick Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 29 minutes ago, fretmeister said: You can run 2 instruments - use the main input for one and the Aux in (full fat) or a Loop return (LT) for the other. Then Just set Path A for 1 instrument, and Path B for the other and keep them completely separate. Just remember to also set the outputs separately as well so they go to different board channels. If neither path is stereo then just split left and right on the XLRs. If, for example the bass is mono but the guitar is stereo then use the 1/4 outputs for 1, and the XLRs for the other thanks for the info - much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 It really is a cracking bit of kit. You can even decide to split each path again and have 1 sub path with a Cab model and 1 without. Or run your XLRs to the desk but then set the USB to do something different to record straight to a DAW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DorsetBlue Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 4 hours ago, LewisK1975 said: Yay indeed! It's a fantastic piece of kit. I'm now trying to decide which of my separate pedals / boards to keep/sell, still feel the need to keep a small pedal board for those gigs where floor space is a premium! My current plan is to keep: 1) Dunlop Wah (prefer the action) 2) Digitech Whammy (bloody expensive, was a Xmas present and it has far more functionality than that offered by the Helix). 3) TC Tuner (always handy) 4) Fishman Pre-Amp (keeping for acoustic and double bass. It is also a handy little backup for standard basses) 5) EH Big Muff (again, a Xmas pressie and kind of attached to it). Everything else is going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I saw Robert Plant at Symphony Hall Birmingham last night and the first thing I noticed was his guitarist's helix on the stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, mrtcat said: I saw Robert Plant at Symphony Hall Birmingham last night and the first thing I noticed was his guitarist's helix on the stage. Which one - Justin Adams or Liam Tyson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) Skin Tyson. He looked like he was using it with all his guitars and his banjo. Edited December 14, 2017 by mrtcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 21 minutes ago, mrtcat said: Skin Tyson. He looked like he was using it with all hos guitars and his banjo. That makes sense - December's Guitarist magazine showed Justin Adams's board and it was all separate pedals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBus Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Can any of you gents tell me if the Helix is able to do auto volume/swell in the way that Mooer Slow Engine/ Boss Slow Gear does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyclaret Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) Jumping in on this one and no doubt it’s been covered. This thing is a lot of lolly. I’ve been around in circles with analogue and digital effects pedals/units. Found the zoom b3n to be pretty good but just not quite there, settled for a tech 21 bass fly rig at the moment as it just sounds organic. Is the helix another compromise? Sounds good and has bags of features but still sounds digital? cheers Edited December 16, 2017 by tonyclaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 40 minutes ago, tonyclaret said: Jumping in on this one and no doubt it’s been covered. This thing is a lot of lolly. I’ve been around in circles with analogue and digital effects pedals/units. Found the zoom b3n to be pretty good but just not quite there, settled for a tech 21 bass fly rig at the moment as it just sounds organic. Is the helix another compromise? Sounds good and has bags of features but still sounds digital? cheers Doesn't sound digital to me. I've always steered well away from multi effects units because I always found the basic sounds poor. The Helix just sounds great and completely realistic. I wouldn't use it in conjunction with an amp but with an FRFR speaker it floors anything I've previously owned. That includes some of the most sought after rigs out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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