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[quote name='grumble' post='653128' date='Nov 12 2009, 10:02 PM']Not Ebay but....

[url="http://tuscanyguitars.com/tuscany_bird_cherry.html"]http://tuscanyguitars.com/tuscany_bird_cherry.html[/url]

Complete with
"Professional nut job for maximum left hand comfort"
:)[/quote]


Love the pick ups on this wouldn't mind trying one- don't like the price tho

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[quote name='hookys6stringbass' post='656285' date='Nov 16 2009, 07:29 PM']looks like a Hondo II to me - I thought Ibanez were thru necks?[/quote]
No that's an Ibby - or at least made in the Fujigen factory, which made Ibanez back then. Check out the full-width glittery inlays, finger rest & narrow bridge pup surround. Up close it has checker binding, like the pre '73 Ricks these were based on. There were bolt-on as well as through-neck Ibbys, here's a 2388B bolt-on & 2388B/DX through-neck side by side:

[url="http://www.ibanez.co.jp/anniversary/1/6.jpg"]http://www.ibanez.co.jp/anniversary/1/6.jpg[/url]

Easy way to tell them apart is the big Mudbucker on the through-neck. Most Ibby 4001 copies are like these, but on later ones the design was updated to have more modern/accurate (ie generic) Rick features, and they lost all the cool bits apart from the binding.

I'd [i]love[/i] an early 2388B/DX with the sparkly inlays, mudbuckers, chunky tailpiece.... :wub:

J.

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[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='656990' date='Nov 17 2009, 02:05 PM'][url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aria-pro-II-RB-4001type-80s-Paul-McCartney-NTR-Goodcond_W0QQitemZ300368094718QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item45ef5565fe"]Aria[/url][/quote]

That's fascinating - never, ever seen one of those before. This has a set neck, unbound body & dot markers, and has a typical Matsumoku 3-piece neck, rather than the usual skunk-stripe. Jap market only, clearly.

Bloody hell, just when you think you've seen them all... :)

J.

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What's this? About £200 on the Ishibashi used pages.
New plate with the knobs in the right place would help :)

[url="http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/e/ubox.cgi?T=syosai&sline=1761&print=1&keys2=sakae%40ishibashi%2Eco%2Ejp&tid=list3"]http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/e/ubox.cg...p&tid=list3[/url]

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[quote name='OldGit' post='658898' date='Nov 19 2009, 09:11 AM']What's this? About £200 on the Ishibashi used pages.
New plate with the knobs in the right place would help :)

[url="http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/e/ubox.cgi?T=syosai&sline=1761&print=1&keys2=sakae%40ishibashi%2Eco%2Ejp&tid=list3"]http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/e/ubox.cg...p&tid=list3[/url][/quote]

all I get is a ukalele on that link

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Ishibashi links tend to do this - this one might work for a minute or two:

[url="http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/ubox.cgi?T=syosai&sline=3174&print=1&keys2=sakae%40ishibashi.co.jp&tid=list3"]http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/ubox.cgi?...p&tid=list3[/url]

Anyway, the pics aren't great & I can't read Kanji, but this looks like a fairly faithful modern 4001/4003 copy to me, bolt-neck, accurate hardware, which most modern copies don't have. The title just describes it as "4001 Type", and I can't read what's on the headstock. Not sure what's happened with the control layout, though.

Good price - but Ishi prices often are for 'Fakers, because they've continued to be made for the home market despite becoming largely extinct in the West since the 70s. Shipping & customs might smart a bit.

J.

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='659129' date='Nov 19 2009, 12:48 PM']Ishibashi links tend to do this - this one might work for a minute or two:

[url="http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/ubox.cgi?T=syosai&sline=3174&print=1&keys2=sakae%40ishibashi.co.jp&tid=list3"]http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/ubox.cgi?...p&tid=list3[/url]

Anyway, the pics aren't great & I can't read Kanji, but this looks like a fairly faithful modern 4001/4003 copy to me, bolt-neck, accurate hardware, which most modern copies don't have. The title just describes it as "4001 Type", and I can't read what's on the headstock. Not sure what's happened with the control layout, though.

Good price - but Ishi prices often are for 'Fakers, because they've continued to be made for the home market despite becoming largely extinct in the West since the 70s. Shipping & customs might smart a bit.

J.[/quote]


Add about £100 for shipping, duty and parcelforce's ransom ..

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[quote name='Happy Jack' post='663182' date='Nov 23 2009, 09:22 PM']Nah - that one's a fake ... it's got Seymour Duncans and those aren't the original knobs.

:)[/quote]
Well they do say (they definitely do on the Ibanez Collectors forum) that if it don't say Ibanez, then it ain't one. So this one ain't one. Although it probably used to be.

Only one Seamy Dunk, so it's only half-fake. :rolleyes:

J.

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[quote name='lemmywinks' post='668547' date='Nov 28 2009, 05:59 PM'][url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rare-Fretless-Matsumoku-Pearl-Vorg-Bass_W0QQitemZ170413128704QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item27ad69fc00"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rare-Fretless-Matsum...=item27ad69fc00[/url]


Fretless green Ricky copy![/quote]

Ahem...

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=59985"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=59985[/url]

:)

J.

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[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='669041' date='Nov 29 2009, 12:38 PM'][url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rare-retro-custom-TOKAI-BASS-with-USA-upgrades-SUPERB_W0QQitemZ270492829061QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item3efaa10585"]Tokai[/url][/quote]

I like that one. i guess the Shine must be overpriced as it's not far off the BIN price of the Tokai.

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