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[quote name='The Burpster' post='127384' date='Jan 24 2008, 10:39 PM']Seeing as tis thread is just never going to go away I've pinned it as it seems remarkably popular...[/quote]
Good plan, Bob. I somehow don't think JapCrap's going anywhere in a hurry, either. :)

J.

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[quote name='Happy Jack' post='126971' date='Jan 24 2008, 03:12 PM']Total feedback of 8, with no activity at all since May'05, and he pops up selling an expensive bass with a single, poor-quality photograph. Oh yes, and his Pay-Pal (sorry, that should be "Pay-Pall") has been hacked. So he gets your dosh long before you see his bass, unless you happen to live close to Norfolk, though he doesn't actually mention [i]where[/i] in Norfolk, of course.[/quote]
Haha, a mate of mine has been talkin to the seller of that fake 4001, and the seller reckons its "real", but wont email any more photos and got insulting when he was told it was fake. God help the winning bidder if he isn't within driving distance of norfolk, and more importantly, god help the seller if he is!

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I googled this guys email and came up with this:

[url="http://en.netlog.com/clan/guitar_and_bass_players_unite/photo/photoID=121044#photos"]http://en.netlog.com/clan/guitar_and_bass_...D=121044#photos[/url]

Presumably thats his '1970's fender p-bass'. :)

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I've asked a couple of times for some pics, and he's just blanked me. I'm still rattling his cage in a constructive way:

[quote]Hi - I've asked a couple of times for some photos that could identify whether or not this bass is a genuine Rickenbacker. Personally, I think it's a 70s Japanese copy, but the pictures I asked for in my previous communications would clear this up once and for all.

If this bass does turn out to be a copy, you could potentially find yourself in a lot of trouble for passing it off as the real thing - Rickenbacker International Corp are very aggressive in protecting their trademarks, and will take legal action against vendors of counterfeit goods - and that's as well as any action a buyer might take.

If you know these instruments well, it's very easy to tell the difference between a copy & the real thing. The copies themselves are collectable, and will fetch a good price. I'd suggest that you confirm whether or not this bass is a Rickenbacker, and if it's not, re-list it as a copy.[/quote]

If that doesn't work I'll set the RickResource wolfpack on him! :)

J

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Heh. :)

"I AM TIERD OF PEOPLE ASKING IF THIS IS A FAKE PLEASES STOP ASKING THAT QUESTION ANY MORE AS I SAID I BELIEVE IT TO BE A RICKENBACKER 4001 I SWAPED AND ALTO SAX FOR IT 3 YEARS AGO. It was up for sale at £1500 and i swaped my sax for it iv had 3 music shops say its real and have compaird it to a real one and its identical!"

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Him:
[quote]Dude i have told you now actualy pay atention to this i swaped an alto sax for it 3 yers back it was up for sale at £1300 all bar one of the pics you have asked for the peices in them are exactly the same thats why i havent senjt you them BECAUSE YOU ARE A WAIST OF MY TIME![/quote]
Me:
[quote]You might want to accept the possibility that you were ripped off. I'm offering to help you, not 'waist' your time. I doubt you'll find Rickenbacker's lawyers quite so willing to help. But it's your choice, obviously.[/quote]

I think I'll leave it at that. On his head be it.

:)

J.

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Here's a modern Shine copy - about as accurate as Rickalikes get these days - it even has Seymour Dunks & a bridge with proper intonation adjustment!

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110219563355"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=110219563355[/url]

Funny listing - AFAIK Korean Ibanez are made by Cort & Epi by Samick, not Shine - or Saien, as the factory's called. Also these basses are not quite as rare as he thinks - especially in Sweden:

[url="http://www.tiptop.se/cgi-bin/multipage.cgi?id=2525"]http://www.tiptop.se/cgi-bin/multipage.cgi?id=2525[/url]
[url="http://www.tiptop.se/cgi-bin/multipage.cgi?id=2523"]http://www.tiptop.se/cgi-bin/multipage.cgi?id=2523[/url]
[url="http://www.tiptop.se/cgi-bin/multipage.cgi?id=2522"]http://www.tiptop.se/cgi-bin/multipage.cgi?id=2522[/url]
[url="http://www.tiptop.se/cgi-bin/multipage.cgi?id=2524"]http://www.tiptop.se/cgi-bin/multipage.cgi?id=2524[/url]

I really like that white one - although SEK5995 is about £470! Ouch!

J.

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I've dealt with Badlands in the past - nice people, and straight.

Graham Paddles seems to know his stuff. He was one of the first to start his own direct imports from first Korea, then China, and he goes out there from time to time.

He sometimes sells own-brand imports under the 'G&S' name. He's the G, his wife is the S.

That Shine is actually really rather nice. Close enough to fool those who don't know better, without being a serious attempt to pass it off as an original so no one gets hurt feelings. Looks nicer than those RockinBetter thingies.

:)

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Interesting - only just noticed that the ones in the Swedish shop have correctly styled headstock & TRC, while the Ebay one doesn't. Wonder why that would be.

I do like the way these have vintage-style (nearly) full-width inlays, they should've gone the whole hog & given them checker binding & a toaster pickup. I'd probably have gone & bought one if they did!

J.

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Not an eBay one but has anyone seen this??

[url="http://www.wizardguitars.com/BassGuitars.php?product=847&action=moreinfo&offset=20"]http://www.wizardguitars.com/BassGuitars.p...o&offset=20[/url]

Actually looks in very good nick...

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[quote name='Stag' post='134721' date='Feb 5 2008, 11:24 PM']Not an eBay one but has anyone seen this??

[url="http://www.wizardguitars.com/BassGuitars.php?product=847&action=moreinfo&offset=20"]http://www.wizardguitars.com/BassGuitars.p...o&offset=20[/url]

Actually looks in very good nick...[/quote]
It bleedin' should do - it's brand new!

Now this, on the other hand, is just outrageous - a one-off 4080 copy:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Reeve-Custom-Double-Neck-Guitar-and-Bass_W0QQitemZ120219170584"]Bloody hell![/url]

J.

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='128917' date='Jan 27 2008, 09:24 PM']Him:

Me:


I think I'll leave it at that. On his head be it.

:)

J.[/quote]

Got a nice Alto sax here (100 quid from crack converters) anyone want to swap for a genuine 4001?
Just wondered ....
:huh:

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='134757' date='Feb 6 2008, 12:11 AM']Now this, on the other hand, is just outrageous - a one-off 4080 copy:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Reeve-Custom-Double-Neck-Guitar-and-Bass_W0QQitemZ120219170584"]Bloody hell![/url]

J.[/quote]

Oh I like that ... I like that a lot. Wonder how it plays?

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Does this count as a RickenFaker?

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Very-Rare-Palm-Bay-Pacific-Active-Bass-Guitar-NR_W0QQitemZ120219906142QQihZ002QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Very-Rare-Palm-Bay-P...1QQcmdZViewItem[/url]

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[quote name='Happy Jack' post='136077' date='Feb 7 2008, 09:26 PM']Does this count as a RickenFaker?

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Very-Rare-Palm-Bay-Pacific-Active-Bass-Guitar-NR_W0QQitemZ120219906142QQihZ002QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Very-Rare-Palm-Bay-P...1QQcmdZViewItem[/url][/quote]

I don't think it "infringes". :)

Quite like it, tho. :huh:

J.

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Two of em:

A Tokai Rockinbugger, which I presume to be new:
[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280200308391"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=280200308391[/url]

And a Hondo Plywoodbugger, beat up & half the binding gone, by the looks. Wonder what the comedy reserve is?
[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280200381897"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=280200381897[/url]

J.

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