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Well, he finished moving house two weeks ago.

So that gives us a number of potential scenarios:[list]He's about to return from a well-earned holiday.
He's now down to the last 17 tea-chests.
He vanished into the undergrowth at the end of the garden clutching a B&Q strimmer a week ago, and hasn't been seen since.
His wife buried him under the new patio and is waiting for the concrete to go off.
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Place your bets ...

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[quote name='beerdragon' post='54767' date='Sep 3 2007, 03:12 PM']I wonder whats happened to Bassassin, shame if we don't see him again. perhaps he's on a world tour :huh:[/quote]

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='54844' date='Sep 3 2007, 05:22 PM']Well, he finished moving house two weeks ago.

So that gives us a number of potential scenarios:[list]He's about to return from a well-earned holiday.
He's now down to the last 17 tea-chests.
He vanished into the undergrowth at the end of the garden clutching a B&Q strimmer a week ago, and hasn't been seen since.
His wife buried him under the new patio and is waiting for the concrete to go off.
[/list]Place your bets ...[/quote]

Aw, I'm touched you're so concerned about me! :huh:

There's some truth to a few of those potential scenarios, although regrettably no World Tour just yet! However you can blame the retards, idiots & lazy, cynical liars at Virgin media for much of my absence - no internet for a fortnight & still no phone, the amount of time spent sitting around waiting for equipment/engineers who didn't turn up, and then being lied to repeatedly whilst running up insane mobile bills.... Anyway - enough! If I actually had a patio, they'd be bloody under it!! :)

So anyway, it doesn't look like I've missed a great deal of Rickenbuggery, during my absence! Has the Great Mr Hall finally put a stop to it all?

J.

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S'pose I have to do this:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-KAY-RIKCENBACKER-COPY-BASS-GUITAR_W0QQitemZ150160898551"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-KAY-RIKCENBA...emZ150160898551[/url]

Although it's really pushing it to call these bits of crap "Rikcenbacker (sic) Copies". I'm inclined to think any vague similarities are just a mistake.

But this'll make you laugh:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-1960s-70s-Bass-Guitar-Cool-Retro-Look_W0QQitemZ140155768276"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-1960s-70s-Bass-...emZ140155768276[/url]

...and:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-1960s-70s-Bass-Guitar-Cool-Retro-Look-Number-Two_W0QQitemZ140155769422"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-1960s-70s-Bass-...emZ140155769422[/url]

Or not.

J.

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Blimey! It's about bleedin' time!! :)

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140158495838"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=140158495838[/url]

Very interesting twin-truss rod bolt neck, not too daft BIN. Don't think it's a Kasuga, I'd say Matsumoku or associated brand, but those rods are odd!

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300151446067"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=300151446067[/url]

Oh, here we go. An "Ibanez". From the 60s. Of course, in the halcyon days of the 60s, Japan was one big Ibanez factory.

It's probably a Shaftesbury or somesuch, from the mid 70s. Black finish may not be original, I've only ever seen Fujigen-built Jap copies in black - and they never, ever used those crappy tuners on their Rickalikes. It'll get pulled before it sells, anyway.

Jon.

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[quote name='Bass_Junkie' post='61301' date='Sep 16 2007, 06:40 PM']aparantly the tokai rockinbetters are really really good basses.[/quote]
For £600 - I should hope they are! I know they're available cheaper, but it's still a hell of a lot of money for a Chinese/Korean/Taiwanese knock-off!

I haven't seen one in the flesh yet, but I'd definitely like a look/play of one.

J.

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='61025' date='Sep 16 2007, 01:02 AM'][url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300151446067"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=300151446067[/url]

Oh, here we go. An "Ibanez". From the 60s. Of course, in the halcyon days of the 60s, Japan was one big Ibanez factory.

It's probably a Shaftesbury or somesuch, from the mid 70s. Black finish may not be original, I've only ever seen Fujigen-built Jap copies in black - and they never, ever used those crappy tuners on their Rickalikes. It'll get pulled before it sells, anyway.

Jon.[/quote]

Still over two days to go on that presumed Shaftesbury ... and it's at £380 already!

Much more of this, and it'll be wandering into genuine Ric territory.

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[quote name='Happy Jack' post='61757' date='Sep 17 2007, 04:36 PM']Still over two days to go on that presumed Shaftesbury ... and it's at £380 already!

Much more of this, and it'll be wandering into genuine Ric territory.[/quote]

Certainly getting into Rockinbetter territory!

Speaking of which, from Germany (via Korea) comes this:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170146342206"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=170146342206[/url]

Unbranded new copy, more authentic bridge & pup cover than the Rockinbetter - a Copybetter, maybe? :) :huh: Looks a lot like the Shine copies that pop up occasionally, except they have a non Rick type headstock.

And just out of curiosity:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200151751989"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=200151751989[/url]

Not a Rick, or a Rick copy. Bear with me here - this bass is from the 50s or 60s, made in Germany by Wenzel Rossmeisl, who named his guitar range after his son, Roger. Roger followed in his Dad's footsteps & became a luthier, cleared off to the US & got a job with Rickenbacker - where he designed the 4000 series basses, amongst many other Rick classics.

Shame it's butchered, but it's still likely to be worth a few sovs more than the £20 it's presently languishing at. Possibly a [b]lot[/b] more.

J.

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[quote name='Happy Jack' post='62031' date='Sep 18 2007, 08:34 AM']I will DEFINITELY be bidding on that Roger.

If any other BC-type also plans to bid, please PM me so that we can avoid bidding each other up artificially.

Ta very muchly.

Jon - Good spot, VERY good spot, thanks for the heads-up.[/quote]

No probs Jack - I might have kept it to myself had I not just snagged a CMI-branded Ned Callan bass & emptied my already paltry PayPal account! More on that later...

Best of luck! :)
J.

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[quote name='Happy Jack' post='61757' date='Sep 17 2007, 04:36 PM']Still over two days to go on that presumed Shaftesbury ... and it's at £380 already!

Much more of this, and it'll be wandering into genuine Ric territory.[/quote]

Pulled - with just an hour or so to go. £390 last time I noticed.

That musta [i]hurt[/i].

J.

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[quote name='Happy Jack' post='62031' date='Sep 18 2007, 07:34 AM']I will DEFINITELY be bidding on that Roger.

If any other BC-type also plans to bid, please PM me so that we can avoid bidding each other up artificially.

Ta very muchly.

Jon - Good spot, VERY good spot, thanks for the heads-up.[/quote]

Was that price a little too high Happy jack?

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Mine was the £121.30 so I got pipped for £2. I was playing last night, so unavailable to raise my bid, but I wouldn't have anyway. Nice as it was, I suspect that it was more of a conversation piece than a player.

Now if it had been a very early piece by ROGER Rossmeissl ...

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[quote name='Happy Jack' post='62853' date='Sep 19 2007, 09:49 PM']Mine was the £121.30 so I got pipped for £2. I was playing last night, so unavailable to raise my bid, but I wouldn't have anyway. Nice as it was, I suspect that it was more of a conversation piece than a player.

Now if it had been a very early piece by ROGER Rossmeissl ...[/quote]

I used to have same problem. Have you ever tried 'sniping'?
Some find this practice 'unethical'. But it saves hanging around the computer sometimes at two in the morning.

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Yes, I've used AuctionSniper in the past and a very good piece of software it is.

BUT ...

Firstly it takes all the fun out of it, and secondly I always bid my highest bid first time - I've never seen the point in starting at £10, wait to get outbid, put in £30, wait to get outbid etc. etc.

I have no qualms about sniping being unethical. For a sniper to beat me, he has to be prepared to outbid me. Simple really.

I don't worry about being beaten by £2 either. It's not really £2, is it? If I raise my bid from £121.30 to £125.30, that's when I discover that his bid was higher than mine, his now stands at £127.30 and I'm STILL being beaten by £2!

Do the research, set the bid, never change your mind.

There'll be another one along in a minute.

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[quote name='Happy Jack' post='63067' date='Sep 20 2007, 01:06 PM']Yes, I've used AuctionSniper in the past and a very good piece of software it is.

BUT ...

Firstly it takes all the fun out of it, and secondly I always bid my highest bid first time - I've never seen the point in starting at £10, wait to get outbid, put in £30, wait to get outbid etc. etc.

I have no qualms about sniping being unethical. For a sniper to beat me, he has to be prepared to outbid me. Simple really.

I don't worry about being beaten by £2 either. It's not really £2, is it? If I raise my bid from £121.30 to £125.30, that's when I discover that his bid was higher than mine, his now stands at £127.30 and I'm STILL being beaten by £2!

Do the research, set the bid, never change your mind.

There'll be another one along in a minute.[/quote]

I agree with you it can take the fun out of it.
But, for someone like me who has no self control with regard to impulse buying (according to the wife), I find it instills some descipline. I'm not tempted to keep on bidding, with compulsion to win the auction...
I'm probably a bit sad!

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[quote name='Happy Jack' post='63067' date='Sep 20 2007, 01:06 PM']secondly I always bid my highest bid first time[/quote]

I always have a figure in mind, but I wait until the last moments to place it. The longer you're at the top of the pile, the longer others have to shoot at you.

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How long till this gets pulled? He even says 'NOT Rickenbacker' in the title. Now that is a quick way for the Rik Police to get on your case!

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IBANEZ-NOT-RICKENBACKER_W0QQitemZ250167630686QQihZ015QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IBANEZ-NOT-RICKENBAC...1QQcmdZViewItem[/url]

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[quote name='warwickhunt' post='63728' date='Sep 21 2007, 06:09 PM']How long till this gets pulled? He even says 'NOT Rickenbacker' in the title. Now that is a quick way for the Rik Police to get on your case!

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IBANEZ-NOT-RICKENBACKER_W0QQitemZ250167630686QQihZ015QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IBANEZ-NOT-RICKENBAC...1QQcmdZViewItem[/url][/quote]

And for once it is an Ibby - a 2388DX, if I'm not mistaken.

Really don't like the look of the big cracks between the through-neck & body wings visible on the back. These are notorious for having an action you could barrel-roll an Airbus A380 under - and that ain't going to help.

J.

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='63824' date='Sep 21 2007, 08:38 PM']These are notorious for having an action you could barrel-roll an Airbus A380 under.[/quote]

As similes go (and doesn't that look like a typo?), that one is fairly evocative.

:)

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Yuk, yuk, and I say again, yuk.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KAY-RICK-BASS-GUITAR_W0QQitemZ180161682172QQihZ008QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KAY-RICK-BASS-GUITAR...1QQcmdZViewItem[/url]

But it does come with a plectrum ...

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