tonyclaret Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Hi, Deliberating whether to get the tweeter version or not. I am pairing it with a Aguilar TH350, the high end on these I believe only goes to 4khz so if it isn't there at the source I ain't going to need the sparkle of the tweeter? although I suppose it's good to have on tap if I ever do change amps or feel the need for more treble. Decisions! On another note although related, some people appear to have bought direct form TKS, on the web it's says to go through Bass Gear now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I don't think you can go direct to TKS from the UK... and tbf, I wouldn't anyway as Bassgear are great to deal with and you get their service for the same money anyway, AIUI. I've run S112's with a TH500 with a tweeter, but only one out of the 2 cabs. I like a bit of top end bite or the option of it but I'd think my needs aren't typical.. A rough guide would be, rounds needs a tweeter option whereas flats don't... but I think you'll buy two anyway..or add the second. The thing about the S112 is that it has great mid cut thru but it is a smooth mid and not at all honky. The TH is a great match but I also reckon the cab will work with most amps.. the Ampeg PF is another one, as is the Demeter and these are, IMO...quite diverse sounding amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@23 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I use two of them with a TH500, no tweeters here and over a hundred gigs in I've not wanted for tweeters once. If you're unsure, getting one with a tweeter might be worthwhile, you can always dial it out if you don't like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franzbassist Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 [quote name='M@23' timestamp='1447011673' post='2904178'] I use two of them with a TH500, no tweeters here and ... I've not wanted for tweeters once. [/quote] Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I use my Tonehammer without the tweeter switched on on my cab, but dialling it in certainly makes a difference to the sound - a lot more high end, and clarity/precise-ness on the notes. Although I`m not a fan of tweeters I`d say get a cab with one in - better to have it and not find you need it than the other way round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyclaret Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1447026979' post='2904304'] I use my Tonehammer without the tweeter switched on on my cab, but dialling it in certainly makes a difference to the sound - a lot more high end, and clarity/precise-ness on the notes. Although I`m not a fan of tweeters I`d say get a cab with one in - better to have it and not find you need it than the other way round. [/quote] Yeah, I think this would be the sensible approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyclaret Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Thanks all for input. Think I'll keep my options open on this one and get a cab with one in. From there a can make the judgement whether I'd need one on a second cab too, later down the line (if I'm penny pinching!). Can't wait for this to arrve now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Probably sensible. The logic for me going without stemmed from my previous experience with tweeters - on my Bergs, for example, dialling out the tweeters left the crossover in the circuit, and I always felt it affected the natural roll-off of the drivers. Whether it's the same with the TKS I don't know, but as there's no crossover in there, I know the drivers are getting the full range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edpirie Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I'd say it largely depends on your bass/strings. When I demo'd with Precision and flats (TH500 head), there wasn't much added by the tweeter, but with a Jazz and nickels it really made a difference. Only 25% on, but that was enough to let the Jazz sparkle come through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radchenko Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Hello. I had a Tks112 tweeter version with my TH500. With no tweeter, sound is warm and pretty, but if you want more options like a more modern sound is better have the tweeter and is not expensive. When I bought mine, I wrote directly with Tommy Sodergren. One cabinet is good for not loud situations, if you play in a band with several members, better buy two, or a bigger cabinet. Bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Here's a clip from my gig last night of my tweeterless S212. I get enough highs off it for my needs, but YMMV. http://youtu.be/i03gdUnWrrE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Is that the Zoom recording? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Yep - it's a Q3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franzbassist Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1447501945' post='2908087'] Here's a clip from my gig last night of my tweeterless S212. I get enough highs off it for my needs, but YMMV. [/quote] It really is all about the bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I like those divices, they capture a decent mix very well...so much so that I trust them to be pretty representative of the gig mix in general. Funny aside... I've got some very listenable recordings from a random quick fix poistion with just level sorted out, where the recording position was determined by the location of a power point as opposed to an optimum sound position, and the worst recording was obtained from a so called quality hired in rig, with the zoom right in front of the Mixing desk out front. Hmmmm what does that say about that FOH engr..!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyclaret Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1447501945' post='2908087'] Here's a clip from my gig last night of my tweeterless S212. I get enough highs off it for my needs, but YMMV. http://youtu.be/i03gdUnWrrE [/quote] Great tone and groove going on here. What's the head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I just became the proud owner of two S112s on Friday, one with tweeter and one without. After trying them out at home I'd say the tweeter is nice to have but unless you really want some top end zing you won't miss it if you don't have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 [quote name='tonyclaret' timestamp='1447700869' post='2909648'] Great tone and groove going on here. What's the head? [/quote] Cheers.. it was a dep so it was all a bit seat'o'me pants. Good fun, though. The head is a Mesa Walkabout - all you're hearing there is my backline. No PA support (unlike everything else, including the drums). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 great playing WOT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Sounds really good - yep, no tweeters needed there. I wouldn't have bought my Bergs if I'd heard them with the tweeters on, but with them off they're bang on the sound I like - the difference in the cabs is startling. I've had the same experience with BF cabs (S212T and BB2), Markbass (their tweeters are really horrid) and others. The only tweeter I can recall liking at all was the one on the Roland DBass combo/extension. Even then I only had it on a little. I play with bright stainless rounds, pick, slap, all sorts of tones. Good news is it's always cheaper without a tweeter... Edited November 17, 2015 by Muzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyclaret Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 [quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1447752796' post='2909940'] Sounds really good - yep, no tweeters needed there. I wouldn't have bought my Bergs if I'd heard them with the tweeters on, but with them off they're bang on the sound I like - the difference in the cabs is startling. I've had the same experience with BF cabs (S212T and BB2), Markbass (their tweeters are really horrid) and others. The only tweeter I can recall liking at all was the one on the Roland DBass combo/extension. Even then I only had it on a little. I play with bright stainless rounds, pick, slap, all sorts of tones. Good news is it's always cheaper without a tweeter... [/quote] I'm all for a bit of cost cutting! It's a leap of faith getting one without though. Although it would give me a valid excuse to by another cab sooner rather than later!! Sssh don't tell the wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painy Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) [quote name='tonyclaret' timestamp='1446992229' post='2903941'] Aguilar TH350, the high end on these I believe only goes to 4khz. [/quote] I'd imagine that would only be the centre of the boosted frequencies for the treble control. The amp would still reproduce frequencies above 4hz if they being sent to it by the instrument. Edited November 25, 2015 by Painy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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