rmcki Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Are there any alternatives you would consider? Quote
rmcki Posted November 12, 2015 Author Posted November 12, 2015 [quote name='Beedster' timestamp='1447363657' post='2907157'] No [/quote] Great, well that sorts that out... Quote
fretmeister Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 The Sadowsky preamp is supposed to be very good. Might be worth looking at. I've got Glockenklang in my Marleaux and it's very nice. Quote
JamesBass Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Mike Pope's are supposed to be damn fine! Quote
rmcki Posted November 12, 2015 Author Posted November 12, 2015 [quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1447364088' post='2907162'] The Sadowsky preamp is supposed to be very good. Might be worth looking at. I've got Glockenklang in my Marleaux and it's very nice. [/quote] Have you tried the J-Retro, just for a comparison? Quote
Treb Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Love the J-retro, John East clearly knows a thing or two about equalisation. He's quite a pleasure to deal with should you feel the need to contact him. Brilliant piece of kit, can't fault it. Quote
fretmeister Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 [quote name='rmcki' timestamp='1447364793' post='2907172'] Have you tried the J-Retro, just for a comparison? [/quote] A friend has a Retro (could be J or U not sure) in a self build bass - he's a luthier- id say the Retro had more range in the EQ. As for basic sound though the basses and the pickups were very different so not great for a bass v bass comparison. The retro had a higher output, if that is important to you. (it's not to me) Quote
rmcki Posted November 12, 2015 Author Posted November 12, 2015 I have the J-Retro, but was considering changing to the J-Retro flat response. I thought I would do a sanity check before changing. Quote
BigRedX Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 [quote name='rmcki' timestamp='1447362752' post='2907138'] Are there any alternatives you would consider? [/quote] The controls on my amp. Quote
spyder Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 I really like the Glockenklangtwo band preamp. Its more hifi then the East with the treble set very high around 12k for more sparkle and bass set low at 40Hz. It is VERY transparent so will show how good your pickups are. Quote
ikay Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) The Audere JZ3 is also very good and worth considering - [url="https://www.audereaudio.com/Pro_JZ3.htm"]https://www.audereau...com/Pro_JZ3.htm[/url] Edited November 13, 2015 by ikay Quote
dannybuoy Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1447402847' post='2907311'] The controls on my amp. [/quote] Oh come on, not everyone has EQ on their amp, some of us use an Orange Terror Bass! Quote
rmcki Posted November 13, 2015 Author Posted November 13, 2015 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1447402847' post='2907311'] The controls on my amp. [/quote] But there so far away at least 2m... Quote
three Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 I've never been a big fan of the J-retro as a unit (though I admire Jon's work in general). I prefer Sadowsky (available as a pedal too) for a J. I have an Agi OBP3 too - impressive but in a Spector not a Fender type Quote
Kiwi Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 Noll circuits are very clean and hi fidelity. Klaus knows his stuff also. I like how the East circuits handle the high end - clean but not too brittle. Quote
M@23 Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 [quote name='three' timestamp='1447418277' post='2907504'] I've never been a big fan of the J-retro as a unit (though I admire Jon's work in general). I prefer Sadowsky (available as a pedal too) for a J. I have an Agi OBP3 too - impressive but in a Spector not a Fender type [/quote] Only had a quick blast through the Sadowsky pedal, but, sounded really great. Quote
BigRedX Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) [quote name='rmcki' timestamp='1447417072' post='2907494'] But there so far away at least 2m... [/quote] When I'm playing, I'm too busy playing to be able to fiddle with the controls even if they are right there on my bass. When I'm not playing the amp is always near enough even on the bigger stages. TBH I find passive volume and tone for each pickup together with a selector switch far more useful. Set up a sound that enhances each pickup and flick between them using the switch depending on what you need on each song. Edited November 13, 2015 by BigRedX Quote
BigRedX Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 [quote name='three' timestamp='1447418277' post='2907504'] I've never been a big fan of the J-retro as a unit (though I admire Jon's work in general). I prefer Sadowsky (available as a pedal too) for a J. I have an Agi OBP3 too - impressive but in a Spector not a Fender type [/quote] I spent a couple of hours at the Sadowsky workshop trying out his various basses. IMO all of them sounded better with the pre-amp off. Mind you I was playing through a very nice sounding and tonally versatile valve amp. Quote
BottomE Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 I've got an onboard Audere JZ3 on one bass and outboard Sadowsky pre-amp for other basses. Had them both for years now and very reliable and high quality. Its down to what you prefer. Quote
Telebass Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 How about a...no, can't think of one... I dislike actives with a passion, but if forced, a P-Retro is what I'd have. Quote
rmcki Posted November 14, 2015 Author Posted November 14, 2015 Thanks for all the replies, lots to think about. The flat response j-retro still seems very tempting. Quote
MoonBassAlpha Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 I just spotted a new preamp on the East website, UNI. Lots more internal settings you can faff about with, including flat or shape option and adjustable "window" for the bass range. Sorry if this is old news... Quote
TrevorR Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 [quote name='ikay' timestamp='1447405007' post='2907324'] The Audere JZ3 is also very good and worth considering - [url="https://www.audereaudio.com/Pro_JZ3.htm"]https://www.audereau...com/Pro_JZ3.htm[/url] [/quote] Big +1 on the Audere. Put one on my Frankenjazz. Great piece of kit. Great sounds and features. Quote
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