Guest MoJo Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Could someone recommend an on onboard preamp that will boost the output without altering the core tone of the bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Delano Sonar Xpure - no eq, just a pure clean buffer with up to 20 dB of boost: [url]http://delano.de/products.html?&cHash=ff3fe888c0&tx_smtdelano_pi1[cat]=2&tx_smtdelano_pi1[series]=11&tx_smtdelano_pi1[strings]=6&tx_smtdelano_pi1[system]=123[/url] Or if you want EQ, look at Audere, Glockenklang, or the 'flat' versions of John East's preamps. Not sure if any of these can offer a clean boost like the Xpure though. Edited November 18, 2015 by dannybuoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Glockenklang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MoJo Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Thanks dannybuoy, that's just what I'm looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 [quote name='MoJo' timestamp='1447880068' post='2911251'] Could someone recommend an on onboard preamp that will boost the output without altering the core tone of the bass [/quote] Surely the whole point of a pre-amp is to colour the sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyder Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1447880479' post='2911257'] Glockenklang [/quote] I have one on my Maruszczyk bass. When the bass and treble are off there is no colouring of the tone just a gentle boost of output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1447880496' post='2911259'] Surely the whole point of a pre-amp is to colour the sound? [/quote] I thought the point of a pre-amp was to stop your leads and the input of your amp colouring your sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Ever single electrical component from the pickup to the speaker will have some effect on the tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MoJo Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1447880496' post='2911259'] Surely the whole point of a pre-amp is to colour the sound? [/quote] I like the core tone of my bass but the output is quite low and doesn't drive the front end of my amp in the way I want it too. I'm looking for a preamp to boost the output without altering the tone too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1447880845' post='2911263'] Ever single electrical component from the pickup to the speaker will have some effect on the tone. [/quote] Yes, but on a passive bass, the lead to the input of the amp (or whatever you plug it in to) have a huge effect on the tone. A preamp stops that and allows you to amplify (and change if required) the original tone of the bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikkoantt Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Mike Pope Flexcore. Even Fodera uses them in they Standard models. I have a Monarch Standard 4 and preamp is very natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MoJo Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 The other option would be a preamp pedal that is pretty transparent when set flat. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bassman7755 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1447880845' post='2911263'] Ever single electrical component from the pickup to the speaker will have some effect on the tone. [/quote] True strictly speaking but not a very useful generalisation in practice. An well designed op amp based gain boosting circuit will make the signal stronger without introducing any colouration that is detectable by the human ear (unless your an obsessively anal retentive audiophile anyway). Of course using one as an active circuit in the bass may change the tone since it neutralises the colouration effects of other parts of your signal chain such as the capacitive filtering effect of leads. Edited November 19, 2015 by bassman7755 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bassman7755 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 [quote name='MoJo' timestamp='1447938576' post='2911611'] The other option would be a preamp pedal that is pretty transparent when set flat. Any thoughts? [/quote] It would work but would of course be one more thing you need to setup, a built in one also has the advantage that your boosting the signal closer to the source so the results will be a little better and more consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) If you do go the outboard route there are also some boost pedals on the market with no eq - Carl Martin Hydra Boost is phenomenal on guitar (from personal experience) and has a good reputation for bass from other user reviews. Seymour Duncan Pick-up booster also has a good reputation for bass. Edited November 19, 2015 by Mykesbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r16ktx Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 A wireless system would do the trick. Mine has selectable mic/line output level and doesn't care about active/passive at the bass end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naetharu Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 The Delano 2-band eq is great. There is no difference in tone at all when switching from passive to active with the eq flat. The switch is also silent and so can be used mid song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 [quote name='MoJo' timestamp='1447881291' post='2911269'] I like the core tone of my bass but the output is quite low and doesn't drive the front end of my amp in the way I want it too. I'm looking for a preamp to boost the output without altering the tone too much [/quote] Can you not just turn up the gain on your amp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MoJo Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1447951234' post='2911790'] Can you not just turn up the gain on your amp? [/quote] It's fully up (Fender Rumble 500) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I use an East pre mostly 'flat' and it is easy to tell as you switch it to passive to compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telebass Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1447880845' post='2911263'] Ever single electrical component from the pickup to the speaker will have some effect on the tone. [/quote] This. The whole idea behind on board pre-amps, originally, was to drive the cable at a lower impedance, so as to reduce the capacitive loss effect. Tone control was an afterthought. Replace cable with wireless - no need for active bass. Ok, you know I only play passives.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telebass Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 [quote name='MoJo' timestamp='1447956722' post='2911861'] It's fully up (Fender Rumble 500) [/quote] I'd suspect a faulty bass if your input gain needs to be flat out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) i always thought that Glock preamps have a little HiFi. Edited November 20, 2015 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MoJo Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 [quote name='Telebass' timestamp='1447983185' post='2912106'] I'd suspect a faulty bass if your input gain needs to be flat out! [/quote] Bass is fine just, compared to a similar model fitted with Seymour Duncan SSB5's, the output is lower. I'm looking to increase the output so that I can back the gain off a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telebass Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I'm surprised...Any bass I've ever had, plugged into any amp I've ever had, with the input up full, would just be a very loud mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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