Sid Vicious - undervalued bass innovator?

[upside downer]

Sod it, gotta have an alternative to the ongoing JamersonJacoMaccagate

[discreet]

Ha! Ha! Ha!

[rogerstodge]

He looked the part though.

[NickD]

Rumour is he studied at Julliard, but left to spearhead the atonal shitfest movement. Could have easily done jazz, Motown or 1960s 3 chord pop if he'd wanted, but he chose to stretch himself!

[elephantgrey]

I wouldnt mind standing about on stage whilst another bassist plays for me backstage, but then im a lazy sod.

[discreet]

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He looked the part though.
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Yes, he left a beautiful corpse.

[EBS_freak]

It's not very well known but he is actually an immense jazzer.

[neilp]

You should have heard him slap! And his fretless playing....

[ahpook]

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You should have heard him slap
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Yeah, I'd heard he was quite the smack bassist

[andytoad]

He got further than me in success, but so has Trump, and he has a mosaic on Facebook of as headshot made entirely of Be***nds. Its not what you got, its how you exploit it….

[grahamd]

Ha nice one 😆

[neilp]

He was more successful than me too, but I'm more alive (arguably!) and I can still play.... By that measure we're all better players than some that have been mentioned recently!

[Number6]

He added a certain "I don't know what" imo.

[andytoad]

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He added a certain "I don't know what" imo.
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he didn't know what either…

[Happy Jack]

Well at least he did it his way ... erm ... no, wait ...

[ras52]

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John Lydon's latest book is quite revealing about what went on with Sid before, during and after the Pistols. Seems like he was a half-wit with security issues who wanted to be the next Bowie and became dangerously smitten with the New York Dolls' smackhead lifestyle and image. I feel sorry for the guy really.
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And it looks like McLaren had no qualms about exploiting that

[Lozz196]

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If you listen to the soundcheck for the Pistols' final Winterland gig, you can hear what Sid is doing. Nothing innovative, but he wasn't completely untalented.
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Yep, and the live clip of No Feelings in The Great Rock n Roll Swindle, before he was hooked on smack. He`d only just got in the band then I believe, and though his playing wasn`t wonderful, nowhere near as bad as he`s been made out.

And to be honest, visually SV had a great image, with that low-slung Precision and his simple Ramones style punk gear. Plus a not bad singing voice either.

[The-Ox]

haha I never meant for my Macca thread to go like that, got some great responses on it though!

Could he actually play any bass? Or did someone really play [i]all[/i] of the bass behind him?

[RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE]

He used fender basses exclusively ( in white)

[oldbass]

Great image...kinda pretty vacant looking

[jezzaboy]

I seem to remember that Lemmy was asked to give him some bass lessons but Sid was useless.

[colgraff]

What about this bassist? A 90s icon!

Edited December 10, 2015 by colgraff

[blue]

Sid? I'd say underrated, undervalued, underpaid and marginalized.

The guy made it. I didn't.

Blue

[EssentialTension]

You had to be there ... but it was better if you weren't.

[Hobbayne]

All Hail Sid!