SaxyBassist Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) Hi all, I wonder if I could ask some advice? For gigs I use 2 TC electronic RS210s with an RH450 amp head, I love the sound and power the rig has and great for all size venues. I am occasionally in a houseband for a weekly jam in a pub so I just take one of the cabs and it's just right in terms of power. I'm wondering to make things even easier to save faffing about packing up the head and the cables, (cos I'm lazy! ) about getting a TC BG250 115 combo - would this give me similar power to one of my 210s? thanks in advance for any advice Edited December 13, 2015 by SaxyBassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japhet Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Genz Benz Contour going cheap in the F/S section. Would fit the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaxyBassist Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 [quote name='Japhet' timestamp='1450083301' post='2929308'] Genz Benz Contour going cheap in the F/S section. Would fit the bill. [/quote] Thanks Japhet, that looks good but the seller is in Manchester and I'm in Essex and they won't post. Just really trying to find out if the TC 115 combo will be as powerful/loud as one of my 210s, as there is one locally on offer :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 You don't want to faff around with 1 speaker lead and 1 amp? IMO you already have the perfect modular rig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaxyBassist Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1450091167' post='2929419'] You don't want to faff around with 1 speaker lead and 1 amp? IMO you already have the perfect modular rig. [/quote] I know it's perfect, but having to dismantle it all and then reassemble it all at again at home I don't mind for decently paid gigs, but if I had this combo it would make my life easier for the jam (not well paid) - bear in mind I'm an older lady (much older than I look in my pic which was taken earlier this year - you wouldn't believe me if I told you!!.... and not in the best of health :-( ) All I want to know is - would the BG 115 match one of my 210s? if not then I won't get it :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 You won't know without trying it but why wouldn't it match up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowieBass Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 There's a decent review of the TC combos here, including a comparison of the different speaker sizes available (best listened to through headphones). http://youtu.be/Uc4rj6EhB7M The 115 sounds different to the 210 version of the combos and Gregor points out the difference you'll notice in tone between the combos and the RH heads with the RS cabs... something to consider if you love what you're hearing with your current setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaxyBassist Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 [quote name='HowieBass' timestamp='1450093336' post='2929446'] There's a decent review of the TC combos here, including a comparison of the different speaker sizes available (best listened to through headphones). [media]http://youtu.be/Uc4rj6EhB7M[/media] The 115 sounds different to the 210 version of the combos and Gregor points out the difference you'll notice in tone between the combos and the RH heads with the RS cabs... something to consider if you love what you're hearing with your current setup. [/quote] Thanks this is very useful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaxyBassist Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1450092977' post='2929443'] You won't know without trying it but why wouldn't it match up? [/quote] Because it's one 15" speaker instead of 2x10 and it's 250 watts instead of 400 and it's in lighter casing I'm just trying to find out how it compares in oomph to one of my 2x10s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobiewharton Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Hi SaxyBassist, The Genz is mine. I'll be visiting family in St. Albans, Herts for around a week from 28th if that helps? The combo is 500W at 4 ohms and 300W at 8 ohms into the cab's two 10'' drivers. It's a great sounding, loud combo. Cheers, Tobie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowieBass Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 If transporting your amp head, cab and cables is a bit of a faff you might consider getting one of those folding trucks and a few decent bungee cords which would mean fewer trips between the stage/room and your car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironside1966 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 If it is a size weight issue rather than having to plug a speaker lead in, why not try a Barefaced One 10 cabinet and use the same head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 [quote name='tobiewharton' timestamp='1450101392' post='2929543'] Hi SaxyBassist, The Genz is mine. I'll be visiting family in St. Albans, Herts for around a week from 28th if that helps? The combo is 500W at 4 ohms and 300W at 8 ohms into the cab's two 10'' drivers. It's a great sounding, loud combo. Cheers, Tobie [/quote] I live in St. Albans. If you'd like me to hold it for you until you can get to St. A or deliver it to you in Essex I can do it if you need? Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubsonicSimpleton Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Maybe it would be worth considering making your life easier on every gig by using a lighter weight speaker cab given that the RS210 is ~20Kg - a barefaced One10 is about ~7Kg and same ballpark as buying a combo, and if it can give the tone and vol that you need for smaller gigs/jams, then it is going to be a whole lot easier to live with for loading purposes(the trial period is a simple way to settle any doubts about will it cut it in the real world). edit:lol ironside ninja'd me Edited December 14, 2015 by SubsonicSimpleton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBunny Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Do TC still make the RS210 with a slot in the top for the RH head? If so, sell 1 of your 210's, get the airhead cab, job done. That way you still have the tone you like but it is all in 1 box. Add the 2nd cab when you need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaxyBassist Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) I wrote a great long reply with each post quoted and it wouldn't let me post it for some reason!! Anyway thanks for all the advice - I am now coming to the conclusion reading everyone's responses that the real problem (which I have been denying to myself) is actually is my cabs are too heavy for me, I dread coming home from a gig if my son is not home to unload them as I won't leave them in the car, that's when I use the sack barrow but lifting them is an effort for me I think if I was to spend money I would look at the barefaced range, I haven't got a clue which one/s would give a similar power and sound to what I have now though! Edited December 14, 2015 by SaxyBassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@23 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 If you like your sound, maybe look at shifting one 212 and getting two rs112 - Thomann have them for £180, half the price they are here in the UK! You might even get away with one, if your gigs aren't outrageously loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 [quote name='SaxyBassist' timestamp='1450118461' post='2929798'] I think if I was to spend money I would look at the barefaced range, I haven't got a clue which one/s would give a similar power and sound to what I have now though! [/quote] Drop Alex a PM and ask, he is always happy to advise. I have used a TC Classic 450 and RH750 through BF Compact, Midget and now Supercompact. They all sound different and all exactly as Alex described when I asked him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaxyBassist Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 My head is spinning now ..... actually I reckon I could solve the problem if I took up weight training! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaxyBassist Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 [quote name='M@23' timestamp='1450120669' post='2929829'] If you like your sound, maybe look at shifting one 212 and getting two rs112 - Thomann have them for £180, half the price they are here in the UK! You might even get away with one, if your gigs aren't outrageously loud. [/quote] That's an idea that might work thanks - 14kgs lighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 [quote name='SaxyBassist' timestamp='1450118461' post='2929798'] I wrote a great long reply with each post quoted and it wouldn't let me post it for some reason!! Anyway thanks for all the advice - I am now coming to the conclusion reading everyone's responses that the real problem (which I have been denying to myself) is actually is my cabs are too heavy for me, I dread coming home from a gig if my son is not home to unload them as I won't leave them in the car, that's when I use the sack barrow but lifting them is an effort for me I think if I was to spend money I would look at the barefaced range, I haven't got a clue which one/s would give a similar power and sound to what I have now though! [/quote] Similar power should be easy. Similar sound... not so much, as they all vary so much. If you want light and powerful... A generation 2 Barefaced Compact (115) is loud and such an easy lift. I used to own an RS210 and RH450 but I don't recall how the head sounded with the Compact alone... probably "bigger" but not so prominent on the midrange. However, you can add more midrange from your amp to compensate. The Compact doesn't go beyond 4 KHz, but I rarely found that to be a limitation, however it depends entirely of the sound you're after: if you like lots of treble, this might be lacking. There's also the TKS S112 cabs that I haven't yet tried myself but I'm looking into right now. Very light, at about 10Kg each, half the RS210. Even if you used two of those, two 10Kg lifts is easier than one 20Kg, and the way the RS210 balances makes it awkward too. Something else to look into. And you can get them in many colours. I want mine purple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaxyBassist Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 I really like the idea of the TC RS112, but would it be enough on it's own for a pub, reasonably loud rock jam? For gigs I would continue with my current set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaxyBassist Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 [quote name='M@23' timestamp='1450120669' post='2929829'] If you like your sound, maybe look at shifting one 212 and getting two rs112 - Thomann have them for £180, half the price they are here in the UK! You might even get away with one, if your gigs aren't outrageously loud. [/quote] I wouldn't be able to stack a 210 on top of 2 112s though would I ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@23 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I was going to say I'm not sure, as I haven't used TC RS cabs... But this is copied and lasted from TC's website: ...'As well as being easy to carry, RS112 maintains the RS range's 'stackability' concept. All the cabinets in the range may be stacked together in various combinations. The RS112, for example, fits perfectly under an RS210, making it an ideal combination for small to mid-sized gigs...' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaxyBassist Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) I think I may have come up with a solution for the jam situation, my little Promethean PS3110, and an RS112, 11kgs and 14 kgs respectively! The little promethean has nowhere near enough guts, but driving the RS112 could be just right! Whatd'yareckon all? Edited December 15, 2015 by SaxyBassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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