Dandelion Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 [url="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/lemmy-fans-call-for-periodic-table-element-to-be-named-after-mot-rhead-frontman-a6798596.html?utm_source=change_org&utm_medium=petition"]http://www.independe...medium=petition[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ahpook Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Not gonna happen - you might find one of the elements ends up named after a scientist, but Lemmy ? Naaaah. Bit of fun tho. Edited January 6, 2016 by ahpook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 BBC report says some fans are not happy because Lemmy said they played rock n roll not metal Guess this is the ultimate "are we metal" argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basexperience Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Good call Lojo. Lemmy was utterly sick of telling people they weren't a metal band! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) [quote name='basexperience' timestamp='1452103119' post='2946456'] Good call Lojo. Lemmy was utterly sick of telling people they weren't a metal band! [/quote] He may not have described them as such but Metal wasn't around when they started. Bands like Kiss, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motörhead where just Rock bands. By the 80s though, they were what we now call metal. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Wave_of_British_Heavy_Metal Edited January 6, 2016 by TimR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Yes, he'd have to have a rock named in his honour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Why not pastoriusum after Jaco ? Arguably more inspirational to many, and more inovative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 [quote name='ambient' timestamp='1452105024' post='2946493'] Why not pastoriusum after Jaco ? Arguably more inspirational to many, and more inovative. [/quote] I'm not sure he was a mythical character. Which is one of the criteria for naming elements. The only modern mythical characters I can think of are either Lemmy or Chuck Norris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfretrock Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 [quote name='basexperience' timestamp='1452103119' post='2946456'] Good call Lojo. Lemmy was utterly sick of telling people they weren't a metal band! [/quote] I think you'll find it was a post-transition metal band. Motörhead fans are uninformed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basexperience Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/growing-old-disgracefully-lemmy-on-heartbreak-ageing-and-his-penchant-for-nazi-memorabilia-2142747.html ""We were not heavy metal," he snaps. "We were a rock'n'roll band. Still are. Everyone always describes us as heavy metal even when I tell them otherwise. Why won't people listen?"" I rest my case. Uninformed? The man himself said it angrily in 2010! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 [quote name='basexperience' timestamp='1452107092' post='2946535'] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/growing-old-disgracefully-lemmy-on-heartbreak-ageing-and-his-penchant-for-nazi-memorabilia-2142747.html ""We were not heavy metal," he snaps. "We were a rock'n'roll band. Still are. Everyone always describes us as heavy metal even when I tell them otherwise. Why won't people listen?"" I rest my case. Uninformed? The man himself said it angrily in 2010! [/quote] Just sometimes, when everyone is telling you something, you should just take a moment to wonder if they might just have a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basexperience Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Absolutely. That's why everybody acknowledges that Lemmy was a follower of the herd, a man with no mind of his own, who listened to everybody and ensured he did what they wanted. <chuckles> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfretrock Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 There are no heavy metals. Element 113 looks good and don't forget the joker. [url="http://www.ptable.com/"]http://www.ptable.com/[/url] Come to think of it, there are no rock'n'roll metals also. Maybe Chromium? (and that is a pretty cool website) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 [quote name='TimR' timestamp='1452103489' post='2946465'] He may not have described them as such but Metal wasn't around when they started. Bands like Kiss, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motörhead where just Rock bands. By the 80s though, they were what we now call metal. [/quote] Is this another of those "you had to be there" topics? Back in the days when I shared a bedroom with Bruce Dickinson (no, really, I did) and one of my favourite albums was Sad Wings Of Destiny, I don't remember us all sitting around wondering what to call this stuff. This was 1979 into 1980, maybe 1981. I was in my early 20s and I was firmly in the "it's heavy rock, man" camp. Several of my then flatmates would routinely argue "don't you get it, this is heavy metal mate". The idea that no one called this heavy metal until the 80s is ludicrous. Maybe you had to be there after all ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 And there I was relieved to be thinking that all the furore over the guy had died down. I sat at my laptop and screamed last week, just after informing everyone that if I see anyone else mention Lemmy on Facebook or anywhere else then I'm going to scream. I said I would, so I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfretrock Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1452110112' post='2946586'] Is this another of those "you had to be there" topics? Back in the days when I shared a bedroom with Bruce Dickinson (no, really, I did) and one of my favourite albums was Sad Wings Of Destiny, I don't remember us all sitting around wondering what to call this stuff. This was 1979 into 1980, maybe 1981. I was in my early 20s and I was firmly in the "it's heavy rock, man" camp. Several of my then flatmates would routinely argue "don't you get it, this is heavy metal mate". The idea that no one called this heavy metal until the 80s is ludicrous. Maybe you had to be there after all ... [/quote] Odd blip in 1945 (wonder why?). In slow decline now. [url="https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=heavy+metal&year_start=1920&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cheavy%20metal%3B%2Cc0"]https://books.google...20metal%3B%2Cc0[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1452110112' post='2946586'] Is this another of those "you had to be there" topics? Back in the days when I shared a bedroom with Bruce Dickinson (no, really, I did) and one of my favourite albums was Sad Wings Of Destiny, I don't remember us all sitting around wondering what to call this stuff. This was 1979 into 1980, maybe 1981. I was in my early 20s and I was firmly in the "it's heavy rock, man" camp. Several of my then flatmates would routinely argue "don't you get it, this is heavy metal mate". The idea that no one called this heavy metal until the 80s is ludicrous. Maybe you had to be there after all ... [/quote] Motörhead were formed in 1975. I'm fairly sure 1980 was the 80s? I think you're splitting hairs. My comment was "by the 80s", not "it wasn't until the 80s". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The words 'heavy metal' are to be found in the lyrics of Steppenwolf's 'Born To Be Wild' (1968). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1452110980' post='2946609'] The words 'heavy metal' are to be found in the lyrics of Steppenwolf's 'Born To Be Wild' (1968). [/quote] They are indeed. But which band were the first to call themselves a heavy metal band? It was an evolution, you can go back and say Jimi Hendrix and Led Zepplin were heavy metal, but that's retrospective. They just thought they were rock bands. The term hadn't been coined yet. The fact that pfretrock was arguing in his bedsit with Bruce and his mates demonstrates that quite well. . Edited January 6, 2016 by TimR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrammeFriday Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Erm, anyone ever heard of Black Sabbath? Already going before Lemmy joined Hawkwind, and according to their own website (http://www.blacksabbath.com/history.html) "credited with creating heavy metal.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfretrock Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 [quote name='TimR' timestamp='1452111613' post='2946625'] The fact that pfretrock was arguing in his bedsit with Bruce and his mates demonstrates that quite well. [/quote] You're confusing me with someone else. I was with Bruce Forsyth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 [quote name='pfretrock' timestamp='1452112030' post='2946633'] You're confusing me with someone else. I was with Bruce Forsyth [/quote] Ah yes. HappyJack then. Difficult to quote one person while remembering what someone else wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrammeFriday Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_music#Etymology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 [quote name='pfretrock' timestamp='1452112030' post='2946633'] You're confusing me with someone else. I was with Bruce Forsyth [/quote] Yes, and I lived with Bonnie Langford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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