Lemmium

[Dandelion]

[url="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/lemmy-fans-call-for-periodic-table-element-to-be-named-after-mot-rhead-frontman-a6798596.html?utm_source=change_org&utm_medium=petition"]http://www.independe...medium=petition[/url]

[Dandelion]

https://t.co/NARWBe279N

[ahpook]

Not gonna happen - you might find one of the elements ends up named after a scientist, but Lemmy ? Naaaah.

Bit of fun tho.

Edited January 6, 2016 by ahpook

[lojo]

BBC report says some fans are not happy because Lemmy said they played rock n roll not metal

Guess this is the ultimate "are we metal" argument

[basexperience]

Good call Lojo. Lemmy was utterly sick of telling people they weren't a metal band!

[TimR]

[quote name='basexperience' timestamp='1452103119' post='2946456']
Good call Lojo. Lemmy was utterly sick of telling people they weren't a metal band!
[/quote]

He may not have described them as such but Metal wasn't around when they started.

Bands like Kiss, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motörhead where just Rock bands. By the 80s though, they were what we now call metal.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Wave_of_British_Heavy_Metal

Edited January 6, 2016 by TimR

[Billy Apple]

Yes, he'd have to have a rock named in his honour.

[ambient]

Why not pastoriusum after Jaco ? Arguably more inspirational to many, and more inovative.

[TimR]

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1452105024' post='2946493']
Why not pastoriusum after Jaco ? Arguably more inspirational to many, and more inovative.
[/quote]

I'm not sure he was a mythical character. Which is one of the criteria for naming elements.

The only modern mythical characters I can think of are either Lemmy or Chuck Norris.

[pfretrock]

[quote name='basexperience' timestamp='1452103119' post='2946456']
Good call Lojo. Lemmy was utterly sick of telling people they weren't a metal band!
[/quote]

I think you'll find it was a post-transition metal band. Motörhead fans are uninformed.

[basexperience]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/growing-old-disgracefully-lemmy-on-heartbreak-ageing-and-his-penchant-for-nazi-memorabilia-2142747.html

""We were not heavy metal," he snaps. "We were a rock'n'roll band. Still are. Everyone always describes us as heavy metal even when I tell them otherwise. Why won't people listen?""

I rest my case. Uninformed? The man himself said it angrily in 2010!

[TimR]

[quote name='basexperience' timestamp='1452107092' post='2946535']
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/growing-old-disgracefully-lemmy-on-heartbreak-ageing-and-his-penchant-for-nazi-memorabilia-2142747.html

""We were not heavy metal," he snaps. "We were a rock'n'roll band. Still are. Everyone always describes us as heavy metal even when I tell them otherwise. Why won't people listen?""

I rest my case. Uninformed? The man himself said it angrily in 2010!
[/quote]

Just sometimes, when everyone is telling you something, you should just take a moment to wonder if they might just have a point.

[basexperience]

Absolutely. That's why everybody acknowledges that Lemmy was a follower of the herd, a man with no mind of his own, who listened to everybody and ensured he did what they wanted.

<chuckles>

[pfretrock]

There are no heavy metals. Element 113 looks good and don't forget the joker.

[url="http://www.ptable.com/"]http://www.ptable.com/[/url]

Come to think of it, there are no rock'n'roll metals also. Maybe Chromium?
(and that is a pretty cool website)

[Happy Jack]

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1452103489' post='2946465']
He may not have described them as such but Metal wasn't around when they started.

Bands like Kiss, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motörhead where just Rock bands. By the 80s though, they were what we now call metal.

[/quote]

Is this another of those "you had to be there" topics?

Back in the days when I shared a bedroom with Bruce Dickinson (no, really, I did) and one of my favourite albums was Sad Wings Of Destiny, I don't remember us all sitting around wondering what to call this stuff.

This was 1979 into 1980, maybe 1981. I was in my early 20s and I was firmly in the "it's heavy rock, man" camp. Several of my then flatmates would routinely argue "don't you get it, this is heavy metal mate".

The idea that no one called this heavy metal until the 80s is ludicrous.

Maybe you had to be there after all ...

[ambient]

And there I was relieved to be thinking that all the furore over the guy had died down.

I sat at my laptop and screamed last week, just after informing everyone that if I see anyone else mention Lemmy on Facebook or anywhere else then I'm going to scream. I said I would, so I did.

[pfretrock]

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1452110112' post='2946586']
Is this another of those "you had to be there" topics?

Back in the days when I shared a bedroom with Bruce Dickinson (no, really, I did) and one of my favourite albums was Sad Wings Of Destiny, I don't remember us all sitting around wondering what to call this stuff.

This was 1979 into 1980, maybe 1981. I was in my early 20s and I was firmly in the "it's heavy rock, man" camp. Several of my then flatmates would routinely argue "don't you get it, this is heavy metal mate".

The idea that no one called this heavy metal until the 80s is ludicrous.

Maybe you had to be there after all ...
[/quote]

Odd blip in 1945 (wonder why?). In slow decline now.

[url="https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=heavy+metal&year_start=1920&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cheavy%20metal%3B%2Cc0"]https://books.google...20metal%3B%2Cc0[/url]

[TimR]

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1452110112' post='2946586']


Is this another of those "you had to be there" topics?

Back in the days when I shared a bedroom with Bruce Dickinson (no, really, I did) and one of my favourite albums was Sad Wings Of Destiny, I don't remember us all sitting around wondering what to call this stuff.

This was 1979 into 1980, maybe 1981. I was in my early 20s and I was firmly in the "it's heavy rock, man" camp. Several of my then flatmates would routinely argue "don't you get it, this is heavy metal mate".

The idea that no one called this heavy metal until the 80s is ludicrous.

Maybe you had to be there after all ...
[/quote]

Motörhead were formed in 1975. I'm fairly sure 1980 was the 80s? I think you're splitting hairs.

My comment was "by the 80s", not "it wasn't until the 80s".

[discreet]

The words 'heavy metal' are to be found in the lyrics of Steppenwolf's 'Born To Be Wild' (1968).

[TimR]

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1452110980' post='2946609']
The words 'heavy metal' are to be found in the lyrics of Steppenwolf's 'Born To Be Wild' (1968).
[/quote]

They are indeed. But which band were the first to call themselves a heavy metal band? It was an evolution, you can go back and say Jimi Hendrix and Led Zepplin were heavy metal, but that's retrospective. They just thought they were rock bands. The term hadn't been coined yet.

The fact that pfretrock was arguing in his bedsit with Bruce and his mates demonstrates that quite well.

.

Edited January 6, 2016 by TimR

[GrammeFriday]

Erm, anyone ever heard of Black Sabbath? Already going before Lemmy joined Hawkwind, and according to their own website (http://www.blacksabbath.com/history.html) "credited with creating heavy metal.”

[pfretrock]

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1452111613' post='2946625']
The fact that pfretrock was arguing in his bedsit with Bruce and his mates demonstrates that quite well.

[/quote]

You're confusing me with someone else. I was with Bruce Forsyth

[TimR]

[quote name='pfretrock' timestamp='1452112030' post='2946633']


You're confusing me with someone else. I was with Bruce Forsyth
[/quote]

Ah yes. HappyJack then. Difficult to quote one person while remembering what someone else wrote.

[GrammeFriday]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_music#Etymology

[discreet]

[quote name='pfretrock' timestamp='1452112030' post='2946633']
You're confusing me with someone else. I was with Bruce Forsyth
[/quote]

Yes, and I lived with Bonnie Langford.