60s fender ? Spot the obvious? GO

[Joebethell]

If he really paid that I feel sorry for him.

If not feel free to lambast!

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/272122759805

Edited February 2, 2016 by Joebethell

[Twigman]

Mexico?
In the 60s?

[EssentialTension]

I'm no expert but that looks very suspiciously exactly like a 2008 road worn Mexican Jazz.

[Joebethell]

I would say it's definitely a roadworn Jazz and not 4000 dollars worth of bass.

[Kev]

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1454450575' post='2969950']
I'm no expert but that looks very suspiciously exactly like a 2008 road worn Mexican Jazz.
[/quote]
What I thought too, and this was before I looked at the headstock!!

Hmm. Sadly for him, I don't think a con would post that picture. But then again, surely noone would believe 1960s Fenders were made in mexico??

[AndyTravis]

sh*t. I've just bid.

[gjones]

who's going to tell him?

[dannybuoy]

If he were trying to con he wouldn't post the Mexican serial and a pic of the headstock saying Made In Mexico. Bless his cotton socks, perhaps he's just a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

[Fred Leicester]

Ooooooooh, that's going to hurt when they discover its true value :-/

Edited February 2, 2016 by Fred Leicester

[Joebethell]

Yeah if he is honest then he's going to be down a fair chunk.

[ambient]

I can't believe that the guy would part with that sort of money without doing some homework first. It took me 30 seconds to discover that Fender didn't start building instruments in Mexico until 1990.

He's got it from the States judging by the price that he says he paid for it.

[Zenitram]

They might know very well what it is, and they're just chancing their arm. Put a high price, hope someone fancies it. It doesn't actually state it's a bass from 1960; it just describes the instrument, and puts a year at the end (they could easily argue that was a description of its appearance -- "it looks a bit like old 1960s basses, that's all I meant"). And it actually says they paid just over four dollars for it.

Quite a clever ad, if that's the case -- it doesn't actually tell any lies. Caveat emptor and all that.

[Guest MoJo]

[quote name='gjones' timestamp='1454451985' post='2969966']
who's going to tell him?
[/quote]

Me

[william64]

[quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1454466153' post='2970066']
They might know very well what it is, and they're just chancing their arm. Put a high price, hope someone fancies it. It doesn't actually state it's a bass from 1960; it just describes the instrument, and puts a year at the end (they could easily argue that was a description of its appearance -- "it looks a bit like old 1960s basses, that's all I meant"). And it actually says they paid just over four dollars for it.

Quite a clever ad, if that's the case -- it doesn't actually tell any lies. Caveat emptor and all that.
[/quote]

I agree with Zenitram's opinion...

[Hobbayne]

I dont suppose anybody has PM'd him with the bad news then??

[PaulWarning]

it says he's had 6 inquiries, is that people already telling him the obvious?

[Guest MoJo]

[quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1454502218' post='2970254']
I dont suppose anybody has PM'd him with the bad news then??
[/quote]

I have, without reply

[Guest MoJo]

[quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1454466153' post='2970066']
And it actually says they paid just over four dollars for it.
[/quote]

You're right. $4.05 is a steal for an MIM Jazz. £2200 is not

[ambient]

I emailed him last night. I always for sorry for people when they're caught out like he appears to have been.

Personally I wouldn't ever buy anything like a vintage Fender. I remember that Bass direct got caught out a few years ago.

[Zenitram]

[quote name='MoJo' timestamp='1454505338' post='2970301']
$4.05 is a steal for an MIM Jazz. £2200 is not
[/quote]

But, and this was my point, they have every right to offer it for sale at whatever price they like. There's nothing fraudulent about the listing, so good luck to them.

[Joebethell]

Been taken down in guessing one of your messages did something!

[Guest MoJo]

[quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1454508455' post='2970334']
But, and this was my point, they have every right to offer it for sale at whatever price they like. There's nothing fraudulent about the listing, so good luck to them.
[/quote]

You're absolutely right but I think they'd need more than luck

[Hutton]

I'm glad that it has been taken down. I also reported this auction. It's all very well for us to judge whether or not this is a fraudulent attempt to sell a bass that is worth considerably less than the asking price. We also know that it is not worth the money. I would far prefer to side with the poor sod who may unknowingly buy this to find out later that he has made a big mistake. The buyer may also have saved for a considerable time to get that first really nice bass. I have no time for the seller who is trying to pass this off as something which it isn't. Even if the seller was duped into buying this he should take the hit and not try to pass it on for a grossly inflated sum. So, I don't think that it is good on him. Where has our sense of decency gone for goodness sake!

Edited February 3, 2016 by Hutton

[Lozz196]

Agree, even if he`s been conned, knowingly doing it to someone else isn`t the right thing to do. Unknowingly, well once people tell him and he`s done a bit of research, well looks like the messages got through.

[Zenitram]

Here's a question:

If the ad had been posted in exactly the same way as it was, with the same wording, the same photos, but a starting bid price of, say, £200, would you still feel the same way? Would it still be a con? Would you report the ad?