escholl Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 i don't know if you're any good with electronics, but you can buy chips that take +9V and turn it into + and -9V (effectively 18 volts), which is the same thing that the diago adaptors do. a couple of connections in and out, and possibly a few extra basic components, and that should be it. one of [url="http://www.littlediode.com/components/ICL7660CBA_Integrated_Circuit_ICL_7660CPA_SMD.html"]these[/url] should work, datasheet [url="http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/078a/0900766b8078aebb.pdf"]here[/url]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I am waiting for a polarity reverse cable. Diago are out of stock and the one I ordered from Charlie Chandlers has not come yet so that must be out of stock too. Its really annoying that having spent loads on a power supply it did not come with all the cables I wanted. I suppost this makes a good case for the Sansamp and EBS pedals - at least you can power them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 When adaptors are so easy, cheap, and small, why the hell can't they just build them into the pedals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pablo Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 [quote name='cheddatom' post='310445' date='Oct 20 2008, 02:20 PM']When adaptors are so easy, cheap, and small, why the hell can't they just build them into the pedals?[/quote] true thats a fair point, does anyone know the current draw of one of these? I've spoken to James @ diago about the 18v adaptor and so long as its not drawing more than 30ma (i think?) then it should work fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 [quote name='cheddatom' post='310445' date='Oct 20 2008, 02:20 PM']When adaptors are so easy, cheap, and small, why the hell can't they just build them into the pedals?[/quote] Its often cos the people that make the pedal are c**ts who want you to use their adapter. The only way to find out the polarity of the DC for the Samson Airline wireless is to buy the adapter cos the connection on the pedal is not marked. Or ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escholl Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 [quote name='bass_ferret' post='311613' date='Oct 21 2008, 10:00 PM']Its often cos the people that make the pedal are c**ts who want you to use their adapter. The only way to find out the polarity of the DC for the Samson Airline wireless is to buy the adapter cos the connection on the pedal is not marked. Or ask me.[/quote] i'm going to be getting one in a few months, what's the polarity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 [quote name='bass_ferret' post='311613' date='Oct 21 2008, 10:00 PM']Its often cos the people that make the pedal are c**ts who want you to use their adapter. The only way to find out the polarity of the DC for the Samson Airline wireless is to buy the adapter cos the connection on the pedal is not marked. Or ask me.[/quote] The other way of course is to rig one up yourself and if you blow it up send it back quickly under warranty ......B****R THINKING OUT LOUD AGAIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Centre pin posetive - like --C[sup].[/sup]-+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 That didn't work very well did it The circle round the outside is -ve, the dot in the middle is +ve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escholl Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 [quote name='bass_ferret' post='311646' date='Oct 21 2008, 10:29 PM']That didn't work very well did it The circle round the outside is -ve, the dot in the middle is +ve[/quote] ah i see, tip positive then...thanks dude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 If you haven't already, email Diago - I got an 18v adaptor a few weeks ago as they had some in even though the website said they were out of stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBod Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 So, can anyone tell me how the sound compares to the DB924 preamp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finbar Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Diago have been emailed, however I really need to find out the mA draw of the pedal :/ Anyway - what about this? [url="http://www.thegigrig.com/acatalog/TheGigRig_Virtual_Battery.html"]http://www.thegigrig.com/acatalog/TheGigRi...al_Battery.html[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Fly Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 [quote name='Finbar' post='319274' date='Oct 31 2008, 06:42 PM']Diago have been emailed, however I really need to find out the mA draw of the pedal :/[/quote] If anybody lives in the SW18 I'd be happy to measure the current used by the unit - the real value not the declared value I also have a Diago Voltage Pump that we can try. [quote name='Finbar' post='319274' date='Oct 31 2008, 06:42 PM']Anyway - what about this? [url="http://www.thegigrig.com/acatalog/TheGigRig_Virtual_Battery.html"]http://www.thegigrig.com/acatalog/TheGigRi...al_Battery.html[/url][/quote] It is a cool idea but more expensive than the Diago Voltage Pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finbar Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 (edited) Yes, I'd rather not spend £50 when I can spend £10 either, but if it does prove to be a more effective solution, I'd go with it. If you can measure the current though, that would be awfully swell! EDIT: After Diago's lengthy disclaimer about using non-Aguilar power supplies, I got told this at the bottom of the email reply: Electrical: 18V 20 mA So there we have it Diago's voltage pump is supposed to provide 30 mA at 18V, so I think we have a winner! Edited October 31, 2008 by Finbar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Stop f***ing about and buy an EBS that works on 9V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finbar Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Bee... Bonnet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Well I already have the EBS, which makes it a no brainer for me. But all this "its the best preamp ever. but I can't power it" is giving me a good laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Fly Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 [quote name='Finbar' post='319399' date='Oct 31 2008, 11:20 PM']Yes, I'd rather not spend £50 when I can spend £10 either, but if it does prove to be a more effective solution, I'd go with it. If you can measure the current though, that would be awfully swell! EDIT: After Diago's lengthy disclaimer about using non-Aguilar power supplies, I got told this at the bottom of the email reply: Electrical: 18V 20 mA So there we have it Diago's voltage pump is supposed to provide 30 mA at 18V, so I think we have a winner![/quote] The Tone Hammer uses only 20mA? Are you 100% positive about that? It looks a very small amount of current. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finbar Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 bass_ferret - there are plenty of ways to power it Just looking for the BEST one I don't know anybody claiming that it is the best preamp ever either D: Haven't even tried mine yet! Silent Fly - That is pasted directly from Aguilar's email. I have no reason to doubt them on that. Diago said to me independently of that that they reckoned the 30 mA from the 18v adapter would power most OD/preamp units. So I guess between the two of them they must be about right ;p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Fly Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 [quote name='Finbar' post='319593' date='Nov 1 2008, 01:22 PM'][...] Silent Fly - That is pasted directly from Aguilar's email. I have no reason to doubt them on that. [...][/quote] No probs Finbar I was only a little bit surprised - I thought the unit needed more current. SF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 yeah gotta say, 20ma seems little for a preamp like this, but hey its straight from the horses mouth so ill shh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escholl Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 20mA seems right to me, it's only a preamp. it's not really doing very much, from a power consumption standpoint; basically just a few gain stages and a few filters. in fact, the largest single current draw on there is probably the LED. and i still fail to see why they couldn't put a voltage converter in there themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katri Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 would a 30mA be safe to use if it only needs 20mA? also would i be cool to power this with a dunlop DC brick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escholl Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 [quote name='katri' post='321017' date='Nov 3 2008, 03:47 PM']would a 30mA be safe to use if it only needs 20mA?[/quote] Yes. [quote]also would i be cool to power this with a dunlop DC brick?[/quote] Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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