SisterAbdullahX Posted March 21, 2016 Author Posted March 21, 2016 [quote name='deksawyer' timestamp='1458560790' post='3008518'] A wee bit late, but you can blame the Brits for that...here are 2 Eich 115 XS cabs - they're a lot smaller than they look. Will try them tomorrow night at volume... [/quote] They look great! Looking forward to the review! Quote
deksawyer Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 Well, what can I say.....these cabs are great. They are loud, very loud - with the help from the Mesa Subway D-800. Let's start at the bottom: Plenty bottom end without being boomy at all, tight and well balanced. They're not the fattest sounding cabs I've heard but what I heard tonight was to my preference. Mid and top though is, in my opinion, where these cabs come into their own. With the filter on the D-800 set at 10 o'clock, bass flat, low mid 1 o'clock. hi mid 2 o'clock, treble 1 o'clock and both 4" drivers set to full, it was a very pleasing growly sound from the fretless Ray. I don't know what the crossover freq for the 4" drivers are, but what a difference to your normal horn tweeter. Less clanky (by a huge amount) and with a nice useable hi end. If you require a bit of hi end bite, then I don't know why most other manufacturers aren't using something similar - but I know a few are. Very nice cabs - they're probably at the top end of what I'd like weight wise - according to the specs they're 14 odd kg's. Less weight would be better, but with the nice handle on top, they're easily lifted together. There's a tilt back system as well - a stainless steel pole is clipped to the bottom of each cab, and there's a bracket on the rear to enable the cabs to easily tilt back if required - unclip the pole, stick it in the bracket and you have tilt back. There's also metal plates on the top of each cab (I opted not to have mine fitted, but do have them) so if you added small magnets to the base of your amp (if it's lightweight - and the Eich heads come fitted with them) then the amp can safely sit at an angle on the tilted cab. Highly recommended and worth adding to your GAS list. And get this (I've just realised) I've had 3 generations of Thomas's cabs - started with 2 Tech Soundsystems XS112 cabs, a Tecamp M212, and now the Eich 115Xs cabs. All of them were excellent, but the XS112 cabs were only 9kg's each as I added some lighter B&C drivers in them!! Now that was an easy lift. D. Some random phone pics: Quote
silverfoxnik Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 They look fantastic! Nice write up too and thanks for sharing.... Quote
Conan Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 I like the handles! They look like petrol caps from a car! Quote
deksawyer Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1458733940' post='3010254'] I like the handles! They look like petrol caps from a car! [/quote] Yeah, that's where you top up with bass if it gets a bit low! Quote
RandomBass Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 They look great. What is that overflow pipe sticking out of the rear port? Quote
deksawyer Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 [quote name='RandomBass' timestamp='1458851470' post='3011634'] They look great. What is that overflow pipe sticking out of the rear port? [/quote] C'mon! That's the excess bass overflow pipe for boomy stages - it has a very small diameter to keep as much bass goodness in as possible: it drips away as required. It isn't, it's the pole for the tilt-back, or did you not read my brief write up? D. Quote
RandomBass Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 I see. I don't think I was expecting to see the pole look so flimsy, that's all. Hence why I mistook it for the bass overflow lol Quote
deksawyer Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 I wouldn't call it flimsy - it more than supports the weight of the cab. Not sure I'll ever use the tilt feature though.. D. Quote
DGBass Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016 Mesa Diesel 1x15 cab, best cab i've ever owned. It's quite heavy but i soon forget the back pain once its all wired up. It just sounds immense. Quote
Twincam Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Must say I do pretty much prefer 15 inch speakers. It's sounds very common to say but they really do give a certain something smaller speakers just don't give. And only 15s can deliver heft! Unless your using like an 8x10 fridge. Quote
Chienmortbb Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 [quote name='Twincam' timestamp='1460497290' post='3026357'] Must say I do pretty much prefer 15 inch speakers. It's sounds very common to say but they really do give a certain something smaller speakers just don't give. And only 15s can deliver heft! Unless your using like an 8x10 fridge. [/quote]Heft is nearly 14" in diameter that is why you need a 15 to get it excited. Quote
alexclaber Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 [quote name='Twincam' timestamp='1460497290' post='3026357'] Must say I do pretty much prefer 15 inch speakers. It's sounds very common to say but they really do give a certain something smaller speakers just don't give. And only 15s can deliver heft! Unless your using like an 8x10 fridge. [/quote] "Heft" = volume displacement. Volume displacement = cone area x cone excursion. Historically 15"s have tended to have longer cone excursion than smaller drivers because of what they're designed to do. But if you design a 10" with similar parameters to a 15" but slightly greater cone excursion then two of those 10"s will deliver equal heft to the one 15". Generic 8x10"s have a lot of heft because they have a lot of volume displacement, with the huge total cone area more than making up for the lack of cone excursion. But make a 10" driver with more cone excursion and you don't need as many of them to get HEFT!!! Same for 12"s - or 8" or 6" or 18" or 21" etc. Quote
Twincam Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 [quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1460556051' post='3026773'] "Heft" = volume displacement. Volume displacement = cone area x cone excursion. Historically 15"s have tended to have longer cone excursion than smaller drivers because of what they're designed to do. But if you design a 10" with similar parameters to a 15" but slightly greater cone excursion then two of those 10"s will deliver equal heft to the one 15". Generic 8x10"s have a lot of heft because they have a lot of volume displacement, with the huge total cone area more than making up for the lack of cone excursion. But make a 10" driver with more cone excursion and you don't need as many of them to get HEFT!!! Same for 12"s - or 8" or 6" or 18" or 21" etc. [/quote] Yes indeed very true I get the science. Although I still think that 15s in general have a certain sound and feel to them which is HEFT! Lol Quote
Conan Posted April 14, 2016 Posted April 14, 2016 [quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1460556051' post='3026773'].... 18" or 21" etc. [/quote] Quote
alexclaber Posted April 14, 2016 Posted April 14, 2016 [quote name='Twincam' timestamp='1460583963' post='3027132']Yes indeed very true I get the science. Although I still think that 15s in general have a certain sound and feel to them which is HEFT! Lol[/quote] In a 'general' sense you're right - in the same way that men are generally stronger than women. However it's a bit different when you get down to specific cabs, and as you use one or two actual cabs as opposed to some kind of averaged generalised thing it's the specifics that matter. I know if I wanted a person to help me move house or fill a skip with concrete I'd rather have a female olympic shotputter than a male hipster. Quote
chriswareham Posted April 14, 2016 Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) Hi Alex, what's this I hear about you making a cab with an 18" speaker in it? If it's true I might have to place my wallet under lock and key :-) I love the middly "thunk" I get from an 18" and would love to hear what you can do with a speaker that diameter. Edited April 14, 2016 by chriswareham Quote
taunton-hobbit Posted April 14, 2016 Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) I had two home-built cabs with TWO 18s in each, plus Vitavox 3cell horns....majik! Edited April 14, 2016 by taunton-hobbit Quote
AREA Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Me too.... Here is my FMC 1156 NEO EX. 300W/8Ohm, 99db, 17Kg. 15" +6". The 6" is fully adjustable and switchable. "EX" means, the 6" has an extended Frequency range and goes up to 10KHz. I didn't wanted a Tweeter Quote
silverfoxnik Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 That looks like a very nice piece of kit indeed! Quote
RandomBass Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 [quote name='AREA' timestamp='1460908794' post='3029691'] Me too.... Here is my FMC 1156 NEO EX. 300W/8Ohm, 99db, 17Kg. 15" +6". The 6" is fully adjustable and switchable. "EX" means, the 6" has an extended Frequency range and goes up to 10KHz. I didn't wanted a Tweeter [/quote] Oh I do like that very much. Quote
alexclaber Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 [quote name='chriswareham' timestamp='1460637735' post='3027466']Hi Alex, what's this I hear about you making a cab with an 18" speaker in it? If it's true I might have to place my wallet under lock and key :-) I love the middly "thunk" I get from an 18" and would love to hear what you can do with a speaker that diameter.[/quote] Shhhh... Quote
Tee Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 One of the coolest rigs i've ever used was an old Peavey Mark III/IV Series head, on top of a Peavey 2x15 cab. It was awesome. Quote
shine182 Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Has anyone ever come across an Ampeg SVT 215 cab? I seem to have been searching for a uk based one for years... Totally impractical I'm sure Quote
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