Owen Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 [quote name='Beedster' timestamp='1458504732' post='3008179'] Really....,? [/quote] I agree, I have a Bass with 1 x P and 2 x J coils. If I could have worked out how to put a MM thing as well I would have done without even thinking twice about it. Quote
Owen Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 And then I went to see if they are available as aftermarket pickups. They are. But look at the bass in this video. G&L ASAT I presume. SHINYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lImX6bNbcnw[/media] Quote
Wolverinebass Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 [quote name='ped' timestamp='1458510130' post='3008254'] Thanks, that makes sense. So I guess there's still a truss rod? I'm just interested in the tech - not many people manufacturing graphite necks now Cheers ped [/quote] There was indeed a truss rod. I share your concern about lack of graphite instruments. Not in fashion it would seem. It'll come back round though once it's figured out how to making tooling cheaper. If that ever happens. Quote
keefbaker Posted March 21, 2016 Author Posted March 21, 2016 TBH I love this so much, if I hadn't already ordered a custom Maruszczyk for a fretted (5 1/2 weeks and counting) I'd be grabbing a fretted one of these. I still might at some point, maybe in a year. Quote
keefbaker Posted March 21, 2016 Author Posted March 21, 2016 Incidentally I've been playing it so much I've already marked the fingerboard and it's ebony Might have to oil or epoxy it, not that I've any idea how to do that, but the oil should be simple enough. Quote
CamdenRob Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) [quote name='keefbaker' timestamp='1458557199' post='3008472'] Incidentally I've been playing it so much I've already marked the fingerboard and it's ebony Might have to oil or epoxy it, not that I've any idea how to do that, but the oil should be simple enough. [/quote] I've done that to the ebony board on my Peterbuilt fretless after only a couple of months... To be honest though fretboard marking is just a natural part of a fretless instrument... doesn't seem to affect the value in any way either. Edited March 21, 2016 by CamdenRob Quote
keefbaker Posted March 21, 2016 Author Posted March 21, 2016 [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1458557681' post='3008480'] I've done that to the ebony board on my Peterbuilt fretless after only a couple of months... [/quote] Yeah, I'm just worried that as it's happened after a couple of days it's a problem. The E does grind a bit so that's probably why. I'll switch the rounds for chrome flats and oil it when doing the string change. Should sort it. Quote
CamdenRob Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 [quote name='keefbaker' timestamp='1458558285' post='3008491'] Yeah, I'm just worried that as it's happened after a couple of days it's a problem. The E does grind a bit so that's probably why. I'll switch the rounds for chrome flats and oil it when doing the string change. Should sort it. [/quote] Flats won't mark the board but I'm not keen on the tone with flats on fretless... I'd just embrace the marking as part of the instruments natural wear and tear I have a fretless Wal sixer due next year and I'll be using rounds on that from the outset, if it gets marked so be it. I'd rather that than have the instrument not sounding how I want it too. Quote
keefbaker Posted March 21, 2016 Author Posted March 21, 2016 [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1458558966' post='3008503'] Flats won't mark the board but I'm not keen on the tone with flats on fretless... I'd just embrace the marking as part of the instruments natural wear and tear I have a fretless Wal sixer due next year and I'll be using rounds on that from the outset, if it gets marked so be it. I'd rather that than have the instrument not sounding how I want it too. [/quote] Fair point. Might have to raise the E so it doesn't grind at least. Quote
JTUK Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 [quote name='Beedster' timestamp='1458504732' post='3008179'] Really....,? [/quote] Yep... deadly serious but don't ask why, I can't be ar$ed to explain it, tbh. Quote
Wolverinebass Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1458585830' post='3008880'] Yep... deadly serious but don't ask why, I can't be ar$ed to explain it, tbh. [/quote] Classic. Have you played one to experience the options of the pickups yourself? If not, what are you talking about? On what basis or evidence is this statement built on? You've just put a couple of "meh" comments on someone's nbd thread. What's that all about? On the other hand, I'm sure the op is dying to know why he's wrong to have bought such a gimmicky bass. Quote
JTUK Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) Martin's shop isn't that far away from me... so yes, I've visited quite often and he has done other work on my basses. He had a whole host of Enfields in the demo room obviously. When I played them, I instantly thought of Wal and what they achieved. My thoughts on the pick-up stands, I'm afraid, as I've played and heard them. He was very keen to point out that position of the Pick-up was key which is no surprise. For other things, I'll always recommend him as you'll know, re pickup guards and definitely spray jobs. His reference rigs aren't bad either. Is that classic enough for you..? Edited March 21, 2016 by JTUK Quote
keefbaker Posted March 21, 2016 Author Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) Guys I don't need defending on this. I think it's awesome, I only vaguely see the Wal thing, and even then only with the Cannons rather than Lionhearts and I am aware there's two contingents on this forum that won't like this. a: the "i only like a volume and tone on my bass" crowd. b: the "this looks vaguely like a Wal if you look through a keyhole into a hall of mirrors that has a Wal in it and has similar ideas on versatility so I'll piss all over it for having the balls to try while inexplicably giving blatant Fender Jazz copies a pass" crowd. I like it.... loads in fact. That's what matters to me. Edited March 21, 2016 by keefbaker Quote
JTUK Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Quite right too... my reservations were always about the block pickup 3-1 idea. Martin seems convinced by it... and it does what is supposed to do otherwise he wouldn't put his name on it. A walk around his premises quickly tells you you get what you pay for. Quote
Highfox Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 Nice. I do like these, especially the fretted versions. But at over 4k for the top of the range models, I think all I'll be doing is liking. Quote
keefbaker Posted March 24, 2016 Author Posted March 24, 2016 [quote name='Highfox' timestamp='1458807132' post='3010977'] Nice. I do like these, especially the fretted versions. But at over 4k for the top of the range models, I think all I'll be doing is liking. [/quote] Like I say, this one was less than 2k and still sounds and plays like it's worth a lot more. I can see myself picking up a fretted version for sure, but not this year. Quote
keefbaker Posted March 24, 2016 Author Posted March 24, 2016 As to the whole wal thing... please explain to me how this: Looks like this: [sharedmedia=core:attachments:215020] Things I see that are similar... The headstock... Four knobs.... er.... Seriously, Wal horns are nearly like an SG. Enfield horns are probably the furthest away horns I've seen this side of a singlecut. Quote
Highfox Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 I have to get away from this thread.. see too much I like! Quote
RhysP Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 [quote name='keefbaker' timestamp='1458813034' post='3011060'] As to the whole wal thing... please explain to me how this: Looks like this: Things I see that are similar... The headstock... Four knobs.... er.... Seriously, Wal horns are nearly like an SG. Enfield horns are probably the furthest away horns I've seen this side of a singlecut. [/quote] To be fair the pictures you've posted are of a Mk1 Wal. the people that are saying the Enfield looks like a Wal are probably talking about the Mk2 & Mk3 body shapes, which, it has to be said, the Enfield is very similar to. You've said yourself the headstock is very similar. Quote
keefbaker Posted March 24, 2016 Author Posted March 24, 2016 I've looked on the wal site and I can see the similarity with the mk3. Still only "similar" in my eyes. Quote
RhysP Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 [quote name='keefbaker' timestamp='1458821486' post='3011196'] I've looked on the wal site and I can see the similarity with the mk3. Still only "similar" in my eyes. [/quote] Does it really matter if it is similar? Wal borrowed heavily from Hayman/Shergold for the Mk1 body shape. They're all at it. Quote
keefbaker Posted March 24, 2016 Author Posted March 24, 2016 [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1458821771' post='3011207'] Does it really matter if it is similar? [/quote] In all honesty no, it doesn't. I just see people giving Enfield basses a lot of flak for looking similar to Wals but not being Wals, which in my eyes is ridiculous, given the same person will then jizz rainbows over a Sadowsky Jazz copy. And that doesn't matter either, I just don't like that "Enfields are Wal knockoffs" seems to have got into the basschat received wisdom when they're not.. They're their own thing. The pickups don't work the same way, they don't play the same, they're something else. Ah well /drops it. Quote
JTUK Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 I can see the comparison with Wal, but it has more to do with concept and nothing to do with style or cosmetics. Wal are niche and a very good niche. I think Enfield are aiming for the same sort of customer. Quote
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