1976fenderhead Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Looking for a not too expensive overdrive pedal (£60 range) that will do that kind of tone, which I understand is from a cranked Ampeg. Can the Bass Soul Food be aggressive enough for this tone? On some videos I watched it seems like it doesn't go very far in terms of gain... What about the Crayon? Seems more aggressive... Any other suggestion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbowskill Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) The soul food doesn't do a nice heavy aggression imo,not near a cranked peg Edited March 25, 2016 by danbowskill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) It's hard for any pedal to match that tone, but I actually got pretty close with a Zoom Multi FX set up with a BB Preamp boosting into the Ampeg sim. Sounded mushy and unusable with fingers but worked well with a pick! A used VT Bass is a good option for around £80. Edited March 26, 2016 by dannybuoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoirBass Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 [quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1458978812' post='3012507'] It's hard for any pedal to match that tone, but I actually got pretty close with a Zoom Multi FX set up with a BB Preamp boosting into the Ampeg sim. Sounded mushy and unusable with fingers but worked well with a pick! A used VT Bass is a good option for around £80. [/quote] +1 VT Bass should get you close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976fenderhead Posted March 26, 2016 Author Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) I never really liked the VT Bass, used to have one. Don't like that I always feel it adds unwanted compression killing my attack (have never read others complaining about it but I could definitely hear it), and also not a fan of the Character x Drive interaction, makes it hard for me to get a Tone I'll like and settle on. I actually prefer the BDDI but there's too much colouring going on in there for what I want now... I checked out some BB videos days ago and it did sound close... Just had a look at the TC Electronic Mojomojo, seems like it might work as well and it's dirt cheap, hmm... Edited March 26, 2016 by 1976fenderhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 That compression is even more so on the Zoom Ampeg model, hence it only sounding passable when using a pick! The DI version of the VT has a clean blend which would give you some punch back, but then you're talking more £. It's a tricky tone to emulate with pedals, I've not tried them but perhaps the Line6 POD stuff might get reasonably close for not much £? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 I used to do this using my Line6 X3, I can't remember the settings but being able to run two signal paths through it meant I could have a clean, punchy bass, and a massively overdriven, crunchy tone together. You can run both tones through different preamps, eqs, amp and speaker sims to get the sound as crisp or muddy as you want. I used to love doing it because the bass sounded huge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudewheresmybass Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I've heard it done pretty closely with the ebs multi drive. I would have thought that anything that has that mid scoopy tone should be able to achieve this tone. There are plenty of pedals that do this. From memory, perhaps the Aguilar Agro might be able to do it as one example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976fenderhead Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Thanks, I had the Agro before, fewer bass distortions ruined more lows in my tone than the Agro. Barely usable with those sparse EQ options it has. EBS might work I guess, maybe also that valve one they have...? But for something that expensive, I'm holding on for the GK Plex in a couple of months Edited March 28, 2016 by 1976fenderhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayDownThaFunk Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 That sound is a SD quarter pounder straight into a mic'd SVT stack, cranked. VT21 will get you close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I'll be the lone voice here and say that the Bass Soul Food should get you that sort of drive without a problem. Not the exact tone but close enough for rock and roll, and if you listen to the original it's not got masses of drive anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painy Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 [quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1459672545' post='3018452'] I'll be the lone voice here and say that the Bass Soul Food should get you that sort of drive without a problem. Not the exact tone but close enough for rock and roll, and if you listen to the original it's not got masses of drive anyway. [/quote] I'd have to agree actually. I don't really think the bass on the recording is actually all that heavily overdriven and, depending on how you set the tone and blend controls on the Soul Food, there's actually a bit more juice available from this pedal than I think its often given credit for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesparky Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 [quote name='1976fenderhead' timestamp='1458919498' post='3012133'] Looking for a not too expensive overdrive pedal (£60 range) that will do that kind of tone, which I understand is from a cranked Ampeg. Can the Bass Soul Food be aggressive enough for this tone? On some videos I watched it seems like it doesn't go very far in terms of gain... What about the Crayon? Seems more aggressive... Any other suggestion? [/quote] This is why I love this forum!! - this question is the exact one I've been pondering myself. I've been looking into gettting an overdrive pedal (just for a bit of edge / crunch rather than out and out in your face fuzz / distortion), with a thought it to include No-one Knows in a set and with the online research and demos the Bass Soul Food has come out as the one I'm really interested in. I think the VT 21 is a bit of much for what I need though, I just need to find somewhere that stocks the Soul Food so I can try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbowskill Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) Buy the used one in the FS section ,they seem to sell well if you don't like it. I thought it was fab at the slight grit thing. Edited November 13, 2016 by danbowskill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976fenderhead Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) I have one for sale right now, I've only tested it on a loud band setting playing with fingers and in my opinion it's too mild for the tone in question. The distortion comes through much stronger with pick though so it might work, but I've only tested it that way at home. Edited November 13, 2016 by 1976fenderhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbowskill Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 A cog knighfall might be good for it ;-) ahem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephantgrey Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 The zoom b1on has an ampeg sim, that might work for the tone your looking for. I would try on ms60b (same FX models) bit I'm away from my board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) When pushed to overdrive the Zoom Ampeg model is very mushy - with a pick there is enough bite to push through and it actually gets very close to the record, but forget trying`to play fingerstyle - it sounds like your rig is in a swamp! EDIT - seems I've already mentioned this above! Edited November 13, 2016 by dannybuoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landwomble Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I got a Palmer Ubertreiber from the classifieds recently. Fab drive pedal as it has a wet/dry blend.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesparky Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 [quote name='1976fenderhead' timestamp='1479044864' post='3173482'] I have one for sale right now, I've only tested it on a loud band setting playing with fingers and in my opinion it's too mild for the tone in question. The distortion comes through much stronger with pick though so it might work, but I've only tested it that way at home. [/quote] Oofff! So tempted, I wasn't going to get one for a little while but I'll have to look at my finances... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudewheresmybass Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 It's very capable of a gene Simmons driven set tone. With a hard pick, you should get pretty close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesparky Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 [quote name='1976fenderhead' timestamp='1479044864' post='3173482'] I have one for sale right now, I've only tested it on a loud band setting playing with fingers and in my opinion it's too mild for the tone in question. The distortion comes through much stronger with pick though so it might work, but I've only tested it that way at home. [/quote] PM'd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiehoffmann Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) Never used the Soul Food, but from what I heard in the demos it sounds like it could get you there with the right amount of drive blended with the right amount of clean tone. Speaking of blending drive and clean signal... I'll leave this here: https://youtu.be/aQDSDA929Sw Edited November 14, 2016 by eddiehoffmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudewheresmybass Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 https://youtu.be/q5fmd2lYOqg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 [quote name='landwomble' timestamp='1479071456' post='3173748'] I got a Palmer Ubertreiber from the classifieds recently. Fab drive pedal as it has a wet/dry blend.... [/quote] Yep great pedal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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