discreet Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 [quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1459353063' post='3015723'] ...keyboard players can be cured by chopping off the fingers of their the left hand [/quote] That's seems overly cruel to me... surely it would be kindest to suffocate them with a carrier bag then fling them into a swamp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomE Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1459354811' post='3015746'] That's seems overly cruel to me... surely it would be kindest to suffocate them with a carrier bag then fling them into a swamp? [/quote] You forgot to attach large rocks to the aforementioned target! We'd a keys player for a while who was so busy with right and left hand that it was truly disturbing. No amount of polite coaxing, and we tried all manner of helpful suggestions, could alter him from his zealous hand spasms. Sacked him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) [quote name='BottomE' timestamp='1459356474' post='3015775'] You forgot to attach large rocks to the aforementioned target! We'd a keys player for a while who was so busy with right and left hand that it was truly disturbing. No amount of polite coaxing, and we tried all manner of helpful suggestions, could alter him from his zealous hand spasms. Sacked him. [/quote] I meant quicksand..! I have a real problem with keys players and have had for decades. I know there are good ones out there, it's just that for whatever reason I've never managed to work with any of 'em. In my experience it's best to not go through all the stress and grief and avoid them completely. I won't join a band with keys, regardless of how good they otherwise are, it's just not worth it. Edited March 30, 2016 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coilte Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 [quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1459353063' post='3015723'] the problem with Sax players (and Harmonica players) they don't know what to do when they're not playing, so they don't shut up, [/quote] Coltrane was one chatting to Miles about his (Coltrane's) extended solos and how he found it hard to bring them to an end.. To which Miles responded.."try taking the god damn horn out o' ya mouth.."!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1459356637' post='3015779'] I meant quicksand..! I have a real problem with keys players and have had for decades. I know there are good ones out there, it's just that for whatever reason I've never managed to work with any of 'em. In my experience it's best to not go through all the stress and grief and avoid them completely. I won't join a band with keys, regardless of how good they otherwise are, it's just not worth it. [/quote] I can think of one (1) keyboard player I've worked with that didn't overdo it with the left hand. Come to think of it, that works euphemistically too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 [quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1459361236' post='3015848'] I can think of one (1) keyboard player I've worked with that didn't overdo it with the left hand. Come to think of it, that works euphemistically too! [/quote] Maybe that's why most keys players seem to be deaf... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 [quote name='FinnDave' timestamp='1459110188' post='3013641'] I'll see your out of control saxophonist and raise you an out of control Harmonica player [/quote] If yours does that godammawful train whistle lick every time there's a two-second break, I know what you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Can you not structure the parts better in rehearsal , only play on this break or these notes during the bridge , stay out on the verses etc ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 If I had an out of control guitarist AND an out of control saxophonist then I'd be out of the band. Another member of the 'Life's too short' club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Went to a jam session last night and there were THREE saxophonists there queuing up to play all over someone else's solo or step in at a particularly inappropriate moment. They didn't disappoint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julesb Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 [quote name='KevB' timestamp='1459503411' post='3017125'] Went to a jam session last night and there were THREE saxophonists there queuing up to play all over someone else's solo or step in at a particularly inappropriate moment. They didn't disappoint [/quote] Blimey! So after reading all the replies it looks like my next wanted Ad will end with 'No guitarists or Sax players need apply. One armed keyboard players (right hand in tact) welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 saw a band last night doing No More Heroes, the keyboard player kept his left hand dangling by his side, sounded pretty good (apart from the bassist made no attempt at JJ's tone ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I'll see your out of control guitarists and saxophone players and raise you out of control drummers. I know that noise problems mean that it's not easy for them to practice between rehearsals, but IMO these simply no need to bash away at your kit while the rest of the band are trying to sort out the arrangement - especially if what you are "playing" has no relevance to the songs being rehearsed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1459506297' post='3017173'] I'll see your out of control guitarists and saxophone players and raise you out of control drummers. I know that noise problems mean that it's not easy for them to practice between rehearsals, but IMO these simply no need to bash away at your kit while the rest of the band are trying to sort out the arrangement - especially if what you are "playing" has no relevance to the songs being rehearsed. [/quote]I feel your pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 [quote name='KevB' timestamp='1459503411' post='3017125'] Went to a jam session last night and there were THREE saxophonists there queuing up to play all over someone else's solo or step in at a particularly inappropriate moment. They didn't disappoint [/quote] Yowza! You stayed until the end of the 2nd?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seashell Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 [quote name='KevB' timestamp='1459503411' post='3017125'] Went to a jam session last night and there were THREE saxophonists there queuing up to play all over someone else's solo or step in at a particularly inappropriate moment. They didn't disappoint [/quote] He's not exaggerating. I was there! :-) After you left Kev, there were 3 guitarist up widdling all over each other. So to speakl. Wot with them and the saxes, it was a real clash of the titans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Aye, I'm afraid I could see what was likely to unfold. Been to enough of these things to see it coming and make a hasty retreat. Past my bedtime anyway, it's alright for you with your rock n roll lifestyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomE Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 [quote name='seashell' timestamp='1459509754' post='3017222'] He's not exaggerating. I was there! :-) After you left Kev, there were 3 guitarist up widdling all over each other. So to speakl. Wot with them and the saxes, it was a real clash of the tit[s]an[/s]s. [/quote] fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1459356637' post='3015779'] ... I have a real problem with keys players and have had for decades ... [/quote] [quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1459361236' post='3015848'] I can think of one (1) keyboard player I've worked with that didn't overdo it with the left hand. [/quote] I play with a pianist. He also plays bass in another band and so he understands the issue. When playing together we have certain general rules: (1) If I am playing a riff or arpeggio of some kind, then the piano left hand plays a chord or a single note or an exact unison with the bass without variation. (2) If I am playing in a lower octave, then the piano left hand goes up an octave - and sometimes vice versa. (3) Bass fills are my responsibility, so, in relation to fills the pianist has to have an agreement with the guitarist (which is not a problem). (4) It's accepted that a left hand in the bass register piano part is not required at every moment in every song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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