JTUK Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 [quote name='spectoremg' timestamp='1459795206' post='3019756'] Didn't Andrew Levy play on early Jamiroquai stuff? [/quote] I thought Graham Edwards did.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky2 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I had been playing bass some time before i first heard stu zender back in the day, but he is the guy who really did make me up my game with playing. . . Gotta love stu, and nothing made me smile more than the time i sat with baby wonky watching one of his fave tv programmes and along comes top sport mr zender http://youtu.be/lm_0kFRNGw4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinArto Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) I really like Me'Shell's feel and Zender too, I think Zender is really underrated actually, when he was younger in that Jamiroquai gig he was such a good fit, really shone. I know it's Jamerson but for me this is still the best recorded bass guitar part I've ever heard, there are parts of it where the harmony between him and Marvin are just achingly beautiful. When the bass and the vocal start up proper, around the 30s mark, the whole tune just blossoms. That's ****ing bass playing. And just his movement generally under the strings throughout really brings the whole thing to life. What a player. [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMTPwVwd60o"]https://www.youtube....h?v=vMTPwVwd60o[/url] Edit: Apparently I don't know how to embed the video. :/ Edited April 4, 2016 by AustinArto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 [quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1459789867' post='3019667'] Oh, there are too many to list: Tony Levin on Red Rain, Pino on Tear Your Playhouse Down (although pretty much anything these guys play on is amazing to my ears); the usual suspects really. But someone who, IMO, doesn't get enough kudos is Roscoe Beck. The walking line on this track, with its skips and ghost notes, is just lovely and then there's the two-handed, chordal stuff that starts under the guitar solo @2:00 onwards. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8itrVCVrtNM&list=PLXYKzslrntw3LmWYDEBWLxVt8yb-7M9WP[/media] [/quote] I've seen so many ace bass players who were all great in different ways, but one who does stand out was seeing Roscoe Beck live with Robben Ford. I had never even realised that he was playing the two handed comping stuff until I saw him do it live (I had assumed it was an organ in the record) - stunning player...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Any work from guys like Chuck Rainy, Rocco Prestia or Willie Weeks. Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 [quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1459789867' post='3019667'] But someone who, IMO, doesn't get enough kudos is Roscoe Beck. [/quote] I know a singer/songwriter who lives in Austin, Texas who gigs with Roscoe Beck as his bass player on a regular basis. i was talking to him about Roscoe last year & he was raving about just how good he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 [quote name='cameltoe' timestamp='1459770364' post='3019350'] Have I misread the OP's post? I thought it was Zender playing right through on Return of the Space Cowboy. ? [/quote] Stuart didn't play on this version. I still to this day am not sure who did. I would love to know. I thought it was Randy HOPE Taylor but I've been told its not by Incognito's Bluey. There is a thing in my mind thinks its an incredible player called Ernie McKown. he played bass on this incognito record. I've just got a hunch it was him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJKQS_p9q5k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbass Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 [quote name='AustinArto' timestamp='1459806392' post='3019950'] I really like Me'Shell's feel and Zender too, I think Zender is really underrated actually, when he was younger in that Jamiroquai gig he was such a good fit, really shone. I know it's Jamerson but for me this is still the best recorded bass guitar part I've ever heard, there are parts of it where the harmony between him and Marvin are just achingly beautiful. When the bass and the vocal start up proper, around the 30s mark, the whole tune just blossoms. That's ****ing bass playing. And just his movement generally under the strings throughout really brings the whole thing to life. What a player. [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMTPwVwd60o"]https://www.youtube....h?v=vMTPwVwd60o[/url] Edit: Apparently I don't know how to embed the video. :/ [/quote] ++1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) This is near bass playing perfection for me. Willie Weeks on Donny's classic Little Ghetto Boy. talk about dancing around the chords, his playing is just wonderful on that P Bass. he reminds me of James Jamerson. possibly where he got his style and influence from. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLUh70zp0LE[/media] Edited April 4, 2016 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjYM76FPS3w"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjYM76FPS3w[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinArto Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 [quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1459809312' post='3019987'] Stuart didn't play on this version. I still to this day am not sure who did. I would love to know. I thought it was Randy HOPE Taylor but I've been told its not by Incognito's Bluey. There is a thing in my mind thinks its an incredible player called Ernie McKown.[/quote] Ernie McKone was one of the original guys playing on the old Acid Jazz recordings, playing with a group called Push, he was also usually the bass player with the band credited as 'Acid Jazz Alliance' on those old compilations they used to produce. More famously he was also the guy on all the Galliano releases. It doesn't sound like him to be honest - he usually found himself a really deep pocket with a little 1- or 2-bar ostinato and mostly stuck to it. I always figured he had a background more in reggae music from the way he played, he was a lovely groover though, and could bust it out when required if you've ever seen Galliano live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 Marcus Miller with Luther. No over playing, perfect slap bass to give the record some edge and that what Luther wanted. .its not complicated and thats whats so great about his playing on tis masterpiece of a soul record.. his playing on this record is just WOW. Iconic bass line. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNj9bXKGOiI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) [quote name='AustinArto' timestamp='1459810498' post='3019996'] Ernie McKone was one of the original guys playing on the old Acid Jazz recordings, playing with a group called Push, he was also usually the bass player with the band credited as 'Acid Jazz Alliance' on those old compilations they used to produce. More famously he was also the guy on all the Galliano releases. It doesn't sound like him to be honest - he usually found himself a really deep pocket with a little 1- or 2-bar ostinato and mostly stuck to it. I always figured he had a background more in reggae music from the way he played, he was a lovely groover though, and could bust it out when required if you've ever seen Galliano live. [/quote]You beat me too it. Austin. Push have always been a favourite of mine. I saw Galliano with Omar and Ernie at the Jazz Cafe playing this record. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx0mc5fa15k Edited April 4, 2016 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 The mighty Jimmy Lea, live, I saw him play 36 times with Slade and once solo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heldvX8uqgw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40hz Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I dug into this ages ago and it turns out it was some little known, London based producer that played on the album version of Space Cowboy. I'll see if I can find the relevant link again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 [quote name='40hz' timestamp='1459822841' post='3020029'] I dug into this ages ago and it turns out it was some little known, London based producer that played on the album version of Space Cowboy. I'll see if I can find the relevant link again! [/quote]if you can dig any deeper than i dug 40hz your a better digger than thee. could it possibly be that its not even an electric bass being played.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 (edited) this is panty wetting phenomenal finger style from the master on a 5 string. his slap is obviously fantastic but i reckon his finger style is better. When he plays he really plays. He plays a stock Miller Fender 5 string on this record. he told me that when i met him. yes that is my claim to fame. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1Y3AOdEMM0[/media] Edited April 5, 2016 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 [quote name='Jazzneck' timestamp='1459789167' post='3019657'] I think "best" may be the wrong word in this context. However, Ron Wood ............................... is he a bass player? [/quote] Excellent post. This and "Spanish Boots" ar eexamples of how nifty Ronnie Woods Bass playing is. Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 [quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1459811938' post='3020004'] The mighty Jimmy Lea, live, I saw him play 36 times with Slade and once solo.[/quote] I forgot about Slade, this is great stuff. Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 [quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1459793497' post='3019721'] My favourite bass performance is on Aretha Franklin's Border Song. I think it's Chuck Rainey? [/quote] Wow, I'd not heard that before, thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 [quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1459809730' post='3019991'] This is near bass playing perfection for me. Willie Weeks on Donny's classic Little Ghetto Boy. talk about dancing around the chords, his playing is just wonderful on that P Bass. he reminds me of James Jamerson. possibly where he got his style and influence from. [/quote] Another winner with this track. I was at this show, the songs that were decided at The Bitter End in the village. I think some of the album "Donny Hathaway Live" was recorded at the Troubedor in LA. Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbass Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 [quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1459825217' post='3020032'] this is panty wetting phenomenal finger style from the master on a 5 string. his slap is obviously fantastic but i reckon his finger style is better. When he plays he really plays. He plays a stock Miller Fender 5 string on this record. he told me that when i met him. yes that is my claim to fame. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1Y3AOdEMM0[/media] [/quote] He's a great player but does he move me...no. Cant put my finger on it, it all sounds to frantic and not very musical. 0.2$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 (edited) [quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1459811029' post='3019997'] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNj9bXKGOiI [/quote] I loved the slap sound from Marcus back in the early days (this track). More throaty, maybe before he had the preamp fitted? Similar sound on the Dave Grusin album 'Mountain Dance', which was recorded about a year earlier. I find that musical ideas just pour out of MM. His Fretless solos are very musical and lyrical. Edited April 5, 2016 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalpy Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 [quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1459811029' post='3019997'] Marcus Miller with Luther. No over playing, perfect slap bass to give the record some edge and that what Luther wanted. .its not complicated and thats whats so great about his playing on tis masterpiece of a soul record.. his playing on this record is just WOW. Iconic bass line. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNj9bXKGOiI [/quote] Ready for the luvvie darling anecdote?! A friend of mine engineered one of the Luther/ Marcus records at AIR Montserrat. It's intimidating enough recording with this guy but when he's just told a story about what he and Marcus got up to with a sampler and a Caribbean cleaning lady at 6am it's very hard to lay down the perfect take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuNkShUi Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I've not heard Little Ghetto Boy before. Loved it. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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