BigRedX Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Would someone hazard a guess at what 1/4 the weight of an all-tube equivalent actually is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1461260740' post='3033084'] Would someone hazard a guess at what 1/4 the weight of an all-tube equivalent actually is? [/quote] A proper all-tube is around 35kg, so I'm guessing around 9kg. Which would be very light for a valve amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1461260871' post='3033089'] A proper all-tube is around 35kg, so I'm guessing around 9kg. Which would be very light for a valve amp. [/quote] If that's the case, you can put me down for one right now. That would be only 1kg heavier than my Tech Soundsystems Black Cat which has a P2P wired tube pre-amp and 2 x 500 W class D power amps, in a similar 2U case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1461261064' post='3033094'] If that's the case, you can put me down for one right now. [/quote] Me too, but I'll believe it when I pick it up! Having looked at some of the above pics and the transformer therein, I'm reminded of an Ashdown ABM 500 and they are around 12-14kg if I remember rightly. Edited April 21, 2016 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Any photos of the back panel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 The website is back up again (Google translate comes in handy, and is occasionally hilarious) www.handbox.pl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 27, 2016 Author Share Posted April 27, 2016 Here's some gratuitous topless shots of the R-400... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBunny Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Now that is some nice neat constuction and a lovely big toroidal xformer. Impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 27, 2016 Author Share Posted April 27, 2016 [quote name='BassBunny' timestamp='1461775668' post='3037581'] Now that is some nice neat constuction and a lovely big toroidal xformer. Impressive. [/quote] I know nowt about electrrical engineering so I'll have to take your word for it . According to Leszek, each one is hand-made... 'Mine' is with another BCer at the moment who is giving it a run out - I've got a couple of gigs next weekend, and I'm looking forward to giving it another run out. I've got my order placed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 If I was in the market for an amp this is exactly the sort of thing I'd be looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 How are the overdriven sounds out of this thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Very nicely made.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1462437816' post='3042953'] Very nicely made.... [/quote] Isn't it? Hand-built, too. [quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1462364191' post='3042373'] How are the overdriven sounds out of this thing? [/quote] I'll do some sound clips when I get a chance, but when it comes to overdrive, I'm probably not a great judge of what is and isn't good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twincam Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Very nice inside clean and uncluttered probably easy to manufacture and easy to fix if something where to go wrong. Looks very well thought out. Probably a very reliable unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Looks like the pots & jack sockets are mounted directly to the circuit boards, which isn't ideal from a durability/repair perspective. Still, the vast majority of amps are made like that these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twincam Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1462488438' post='3043573'] Looks like the pots & jack sockets are mounted directly to the circuit boards, which isn't ideal from a durability/repair perspective. Still, the vast majority of amps are made like that these days. [/quote] I agree that when there mounted direct they are probably less durable. But from a repair perspective they aren't too much bother unless the board is a nightmare too remove. I was just thinking the other day why don't they just mount them more traditionally can't be too much trouble surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 Here's a bit of a jam I recorded this morning. P pickup, flats, tone rolled off > R-400 with drive & bright engaged, tone flat > POST DI > laptop. http://youtu.be/tLOMYWj1GUA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted May 14, 2016 Author Share Posted May 14, 2016 LOVING the DI on this amp. It's so sweet. Here's a clip from last night... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUH3OplUj6c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 And a little video I made this afternoon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEnzJVaMpmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 [quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1462364191' post='3042373'] How are the overdriven sounds out of this thing? [/quote] I've just done a little recording of the overdriven sounds. There's three stages to this clip: crunch, dirty and everything maxxed out. :-) https://soundcloud.com/wateroftyne/handbox-r-400-amp-demo-crunch-tone-dirty-tone-very-dirty-tone?in=wateroftyne/sets/handbox-r-400-maruszczyk-jake-demo No effects, EQ or compression whatsoever - straight into Adobe Audition. DISCLAIMER: I have no idea what constitutes a good overdriven tone. If these are terrible, it's probably my fault, rather than the amp's...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1463417660' post='3051203'] DISCLAIMER: I have no idea what constitutes a good overdriven tone. If these are terrible, it's probably my fault, rather than the amp's...! [/quote] I think it's somewhere between the first and second examples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1463432373' post='3051359'] I think it's somewhere between the first and second examples [/quote] Typical..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZD56 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Enjoying this thread - very interesting! So, if you don't mind me asking, what options did you go for with your confirmed order - colours, knobs, case etc? Final price including shipping? What's the lead time from order to delivery? I've also just seen the M Bass 500 Mini Head on their site, which also looks very nice. Not sure if it's shipping yet, but looks like they're taking orders. GAS!!! P.S. Loving the DI clip posted above - good singer too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 [quote name='LZD56' timestamp='1463484316' post='3051671'] I've also just seen the M Bass 500 Mini Head on their site, which also looks very nice. Not sure if it's shipping yet, but looks like they're taking orders. GAS!!! [/quote] I quite like the look of that too, however I think I'd prefer that front end with the back end of WoT's head Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 [quote name='LZD56' timestamp='1463484316' post='3051671'] Enjoying this thread - very interesting! So, if you don't mind me asking, what options did you go for with your confirmed order - colours, knobs, case etc? Final price including shipping? What's the lead time from order to delivery? I've also just seen the M Bass 500 Mini Head on their site, which also looks very nice. Not sure if it's shipping yet, but looks like they're taking orders. GAS!!! P.S. Loving the DI clip posted above - good singer too! [/quote] I've gone for a white 'frame' (instead of orange), and the full 'HandBox' logo (rather than 'HB)'. The finish may change - possibly tolex to match my cabs, but I need to confirm it with Leszek, as apparently it's quite a job to do it. Failing that, I like the finish of the current head... it's cool and unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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