RikiB Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 41 minutes ago, wateroftyne said: Yeah, there's something, somewhere, not right. Great ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikiB Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 I was told it’s plenty loud enough as it’s class AB and not class D but my GK legacy is lots louder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, RikiB said: I was told it’s plenty loud enough as it’s class AB and not class D but my GK legacy is lots louder. Yep, Like I say.. something's not right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, RikiB said: I was told it’s plenty loud enough as it’s class AB and not class D but my GK legacy is lots louder. Something definitely not right. I would take it to a tech if I was you. I'm using a R-400 with a pretty efficient Berg 212 cab for a loudish rock band playing reasonably large stages and I'm not having any issues with it not being loud enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1957 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 My R400 is set with gain now at 1, bass and treble at 12, contour off and volume never above 11 at the very most using 2 x bf compacts and that's plenty for every big gig l do. The red protect light never comes on. Unfortunately it needs sorting mate☹️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikiB Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 But the volume has always been this way even before the HB light issue. I did wonder but thought I was turning up more because the knobs were linear or whatever the term is. I’ll have to find someone not too expensive to have a look maybe then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikiB Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 I just put it down to it being half the watts of the GK,but no way could the Hand Box R400 that I have keep up with clean headroom of the GK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 4 hours ago, RikiB said: half the watts When push comes to shove that's all your headroom used up in keeping up. The difference between having some headroom and no headroom is more significant than the 3dB that is not there with half the watts. 210 cab shouldn't be much difference in ultimate loudness because 1000w up it is not going to get used. The wrong lightshow is more reliable as an indicator something is amiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 15 hours ago, Woody1957 said: My R400 is set with gain now at 1, bass and treble at 12, contour off and volume never above 11 at the very most using 2 x bf compacts and that's plenty for every big gig l do. The red protect light never comes on. Unfortunately it needs sorting mate☹️ This is exactly how the amp was for me before its journey down to Riki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Pretty sure a local tech would fix. They aren't a complex amp. Dave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share Posted July 22, 2023 Sounds like it's had a bump during shipping, maybe. Hopefully an easy fix. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDinsdale Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Something definitely doesn't sound right there. I'd have imagined the two10 buckling waaay before the r400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agedhorse Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 On 21/07/2023 at 06:57, RikiB said: I was told it’s plenty loud enough as it’s class AB and not class D but my GK legacy is lots louder. It’s not due to the difference between class AB versus D. That’s a false premise to start with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1957 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 3 hours ago, agedhorse said: It’s not due to the difference between class AB versus D. That’s a false premise to start with. Believe me and the other people on here with a fully working , fully functioning R400, this amp is plenty loud enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deedee Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 There’s a WB100 popped up for sale on FB 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDinsdale Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Shocked it's still there! Love the WB100, can't imagine selling mine. I think it's the only head other than the VBA400 that I've plugged in and instantly fallen in love with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDinsdale Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 How hot do peoples WB100s run? I know valve amps run pretty hot etc but at what point should I get concerned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDinsdale Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 I dont have a thermometer to hand but I'd say its approaching a good latte temperature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 23 minutes ago, MrDinsdale said: I dont have a thermometer to hand but I'd say its approaching a good latte temperature. My tube amps only get to baby bottle temp so I wonder if you have a fan not working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDinsdale Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 I'd pop it in the 60 degree range I think so definitely a little on the higher side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 My WB100 runs pretty hot too. Hotter than the Marshalls our guitarists use. Its an all valve amp in a small box so you are gonna get a fair bit of heat next to the casings. Other valve amps would have a larger gap between the top of the valves and the top of the amp with a grill for ventilation. Can't remember if it has a fan in it or not. Can't say i've heard one when i've used it at home on the odd occasion. iI'd agree about same a s hot Latte is probably a good description. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDinsdale Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 55 minutes ago, dmccombe7 said: My WB100 runs pretty hot too. Hotter than the Marshalls our guitarists use. Its an all valve amp in a small box so you are gonna get a fair bit of heat next to the casings. Other valve amps would have a larger gap between the top of the valves and the top of the amp with a grill for ventilation. Can't remember if it has a fan in it or not. Can't say i've heard one when i've used it at home on the odd occasion. iI'd agree about same a s hot Latte is probably a good description. Dave Good to know! Yeah the grill on the back is hot, I can hold my hand on it comfortably for about 5 seconds or so before it starts to feel uncomfortable. I've messaged them just for some piece of mind so will see what they say about operating temperatures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 7 hours ago, MrDinsdale said: Good to know! Yeah the grill on the back is hot, I can hold my hand on it comfortably for about 5 seconds or so before it starts to feel uncomfortable. I've messaged them just for some piece of mind so will see what they say about operating temperatures. Yep that's the same with mine. I was thinking the top of the amp was very hot first time i used it but not enough to bother me. Most small footprint all valve amps get very hot. Just remember to switch off right away after a gig and allow time for it to cool a bit before throwing in the back of your car and try and store flat on its feet. Let us know what reply you get tho just in case something aint right. Have to say it works without issue. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDinsdale Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 9 hours ago, dmccombe7 said: Yep that's the same with mine. I was thinking the top of the amp was very hot first time i used it but not enough to bother me. Most small footprint all valve amps get very hot. Just remember to switch off right away after a gig and allow time for it to cool a bit before throwing in the back of your car and try and store flat on its feet. Let us know what reply you get tho just in case something aint right. Have to say it works without issue. Dave Well I did get a response but not sure I did a good job of explaining myself. I think he thought I was complaining about the fan noise levels as well. He said the temperature wasn't a concern though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, MrDinsdale said: Well I did get a response but not sure I did a good job of explaining myself. I think he thought I was complaining about the fan noise levels as well. He said the temperature wasn't a concern though! That's good news. The amount of heat generated from valves is quite surprising. You wouldn't want to touch one. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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