Guest MoJo Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) Posted my TRBX504 on Gumtree this morning and then received a text asking if my 'musical equipment item' was still available. Smelling a rat, I nevertheless replied, "Yes it is". Shortly after, I received the following email :- [size=3][font=courier new,courier,monospace][size=3]"Great... please remove the advert and consider it sold as i am paying your full asking price because i need to buy it for my cousin asap, i have done thorough check on the advert and i'm fine with it,sadly i would not be able to come personally to view or collect it due to house bound i went through throat cancer surgery and couldn't talk more but will be ok soon but i have an agent that would help me to pick it up at your preferred location after you have received your money and i'll pay you via PayPal today and pick up arrangement will commence after you have cashed your money...if that is ok with you...[/size][/font][/size] [size=3][font=courier new,courier,monospace][size=3]Where is the pick up location so that i can inform the agent about it now and send me your registered PayPal email,so i can make arrangement for payment. Thanks" [/size][/font][/size] [size=3][size=4]I told them, in no uncertain terms that I wouldn't be handing my bass over to any 'agent'. Scum bags[/size][/size] Edited April 11, 2016 by MoJo Quote
colgraff Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 Wouldn't it be cool if you could fit a red light and a siren to your PC that would activate whenever scam mail came in? I rarely trust anyone who can't be bothered to capitise their letter 'I'. Quote
Zenitram Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) [quote name='MoJo' timestamp='1460376801' post='3025078'] [size=3][size=4]I told them, in no uncertain terms that I wouldn't be handing my bass over to any 'agent'.[/size][/size] [/quote] Why not, if they've paid for it? Maybe I misunderstood. Edited April 11, 2016 by Zenitram Quote
skidder652003 Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 [quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1460377007' post='3025081'] Why not, if they've paid for it? Maybe I misunderstood. [/quote] i think paypal would refund the "buyer" thier money once they had recieved it and then went on to inform paypal it was broiken, not sold as advetised, wrong colour etc etc... Quote
ras52 Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 [quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1460377007' post='3025081'] Why not, if they've paid for it? Maybe I misunderstood. [/quote] They pay by PayPal, "agent" collects the bass, then they tell PayPal that they never got the bass and get a refund. Quote
colgraff Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 [quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1460377007' post='3025081'] Why not, if they've paid for it? Maybe I misunderstood. [/quote] They would probably tell PayPal the agent couldn't collect it and get the money refunded leaving Mono moneyed and baseless. I can't see many people who have just had throat cancer treatment buying a bass. Quote
colgraff Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1460377410' post='3025089'] Is this guy kidding or what? [/quote] Be kind. Not everyone knows the ins and outs of the process. Quote
ras52 Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 [quote name='colgraff' timestamp='1460377473' post='3025092'] I can't see many people who have just had throat cancer treatment buying a bass. [/quote] He's buying it for his cousin, whose name appears to be asap.... Quote
Guest MoJo Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 [quote name='colgraff' timestamp='1460377525' post='3025093'] Be kind. Not everyone knows the ins and outs of the process. [/quote] Which is why these lowlives are still getting away with it. Quote
Guest MoJo Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 [quote name='ras52' timestamp='1460377568' post='3025096'] He's buying it for his cousin, whose name appears to be asap.... [/quote] Asap will have to buy his own bass Quote
Dan Dare Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 As someone who sells the odd thing on eBay, I'm always getting "Can I send a courier/agent?" messages. My response is always "If they pay me in cash". Funny, they never follow up... Quote
Guest MoJo Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 [quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1460377961' post='3025110'] As someone who sells the odd thing on eBay, I'm always getting "Can I send a courier/agent?" messages. My response is always "If they pay me in cash". Funny, they never follow up... [/quote] Quote
ambient Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) I've sold loads of stuff on Bumtree. I always state cash on collection only, and delete emails and texts like this. If someone pays for anything using PayPal, then it has to be sent by a track able means. They still do this because people still fall for it. Kind of like the people who've phoned me twice in the last week, claiming to be from Microsoft and telling me my MacBook has been sending them error messages. People still hand over control of their computers to them, and pay them sums of money for a nonexistent software update to clear a nonexistent virus. Edited April 11, 2016 by ambient Quote
Zenitram Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 As far as I'm aware, if they pay you as a friend/gift, they can't reclaim the money. Which was my point. Quote
ambient Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 [quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1460385866' post='3025218'] As far as I'm aware, if they pay you as a friend/gift, they can't reclaim the money. Which was my point. [/quote] They wouldn't use gift though. Quote
SubsonicSimpleton Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 Go down the market at closing time, get a couple of boxes of the rotten veg they are chucking, fill an empty guitar/bass shipping carboard box with it, tape it up nice and secure/airtight and hand it over to the 'agent' with a smile when they collect it. If annoying companies spam you with junk containing prepaid envelopes, posting back a couple of banana skins can be quite persuasive in getting them to remove you from their mailing list. Quote
Lw. Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 And this is why I don't accept paypal payments from randoms off the internet for anything over £20 - the world is just too full of scammers. Cash is king for me, though I will also accept gold & diamonds :-) Quote
Painy Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 Didn't someone post recently that they'd been sent an almost identical message through Gumtree? Quote
ambient Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 [quote name='Painy' timestamp='1460390141' post='3025272'] Didn't someone post recently that they'd been sent an almost identical message through Gumtree? [/quote] I get them most times I advertise on there. Just ignore them. Quote
uncle psychosis Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 [quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1460377007' post='3025081'] Why not, if they've paid for it? Maybe I misunderstood. [/quote] They won't have "paid". You'll get an email that claims to be from Paypal, but isn't really, or a dodgy Western Union deal or some other form of scam. I think the classic form of this one is an email from "paypal" that says "we have received this payment, we will release the funds to you when you enter the tracking information". Potentially they'll do a classic paypal chargeback scam but I think its more likely they'd just try and scam you completely. Quote
Woodinblack Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 [quote name='Painy' timestamp='1460390141' post='3025272'] Didn't someone post recently that they'd been sent an almost identical message through Gumtree? [/quote] http://basschat.co.uk/topic/276567-paypal-beware/ Quote
luckydog Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 [QUOTE]As far as I'm aware, if they pay you as a friend/gift, they can't reclaim the money.[/QUOTE]Even if so, the buyer would then have no protection (so why would they?), and in fact it is not a gift payment so in event of a dispute none of this is going to look very clever at all to Paypal......? Quote
Dood Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 I'll just leave this here... some really funny stories http://www.419eater.com/ Quote
taunton-hobbit Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 I always insist on cash on collection. If someone really wants the kit, they will come for a day out at the seaside. They will like where I live, and I'll like their money..... (the kit will be Proper, as well) Quote
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