fryer Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Hi all. Does it matter which order I connect pedals in ? I only have 4 ( so far ). A Soundblox pro multi distortion, a Mooer Funky Monkey & a Shim Verb, and a ( really well made ) Darkglass Duality. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoirBass Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 In short, no, but the general consensus is Drives 1st, then your filter then the verb. That said, its best to experiment to find out what works best for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryer Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 So Soundblox, Duality, FM then Verb ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfFrink Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 [quote name='fryer' timestamp='1461090041' post='3031409'] So Soundblox, Duality, FM then Verb ? [/quote] This would be the "canonical" way of doing this. Reasonable things to try is to switch the Duality and Soundblox, or put the FM at the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skybone Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Try them in any order you fancy until you find something that sounds good to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) It matters, there are a few general rules of thumb but they can all be broken! Think of what each pedal does to your sound and how that would affect the next pedal in line, and the correct order (for you) should become apparent. E.g. Distortion would mask the effect of modulation pedals and squash the natural decay of delay/reverb tails... So dirt usually comes before those types of effects. But sometimes you want that sound, e.g. a phaser into fuzz can sound different but cool. Envelope filters respond to your playing dynamics so they should come early in the chain... Unless you also have an octaver that tracks better if it's before the filter. Then again you might just prefer the synthier sound of putting filters after dirt. Just experiment and use what sounds best! I would start with Duality -> Funky Monkey -> Multiwave -> Shimverb, then try the filter after the Multiwave if it doesn't sound good before it. Edited April 19, 2016 by dannybuoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryer Posted April 20, 2016 Author Share Posted April 20, 2016 Thank you DB. I am also thinking of changing the FM to something else - any suggestions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 [quote name='fryer' timestamp='1461132650' post='3031644'] Thank you DB. I am also thinking of changing the FM to something else - any suggestions ? [/quote] Mr Black Fwonkbeta is my favourite, or the MXR Bass Envelope Filter for a totally different sound... http://basschat.co.uk/topic/258306-filter-quest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle psychosis Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 It matters in the sense that the sound will be different depending on the order. It doesn't matter in the sense that you can't break anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryer Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 The Fwonk sounds good - where do you find these things ? And thank you uncle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinArto Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 With only four pedals it's easy to experiment and decide what you want, but the info you've received so far is bang on the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 [quote name='fryer' timestamp='1461267304' post='3033216'] The Fwonk sounds good - where do you find these things ? And thank you uncle [/quote] I found that one by subscribing to PedalsAndEffects.com's YouTube channel. Anderton's sell Mr Black pedals over here, might be worth asking them when they will be getting them in. He sells direct but doesn't ship overseas, so I used shipito.com to forward the parcel over here. He does regular sales too (e.g. last weekend any pedal for $140 and they are £140 here) so it's worth subscribing to his newsletter if you're interested in buying one via this method. Also keep an eye on the Talkbass FX forum, a lot more activity over there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryer Posted April 22, 2016 Author Share Posted April 22, 2016 Only 4 pedals - how many do I need ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Get a piece of string, measure it and round it to the nearest cm. That many! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfFrink Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 [quote name='fryer' timestamp='1461324198' post='3033663'] Only 4 pedals - how many do I need ? [/quote] You've come to the 'effects' forum - What did you expect? Some people here will have rooms full of them, and still go out and buy a few more :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephantgrey Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 [quote name='fryer' timestamp='1461324198' post='3033663'] Only 4 pedals - how many do I need ? [/quote] All of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinArto Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 [quote name='fryer' timestamp='1461324198' post='3033663'] Only 4 pedals - how many do I need ? [/quote] If you're anything like me, one more than will fit on your board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painy Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 [quote name='AustinArto' timestamp='1461490336' post='3034993'] If you're anything like me, one more than will fit on your board. [/quote] This is why I have overflowed onto a second smaller board alongside my main one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryer Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 [sup]Do you use all those ? Are they all different ?[/sup] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painy Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) [quote name='fryer' timestamp='1461565398' post='3035621'] [sup]Do you use all those ? Are they all different ?[/sup] [/quote] If you mean everything in my signature then no I don't use it all and a fair few are left at home to play around with there. My main board is the Morley volume pedal into the tuner. From there it goes into the Palmer deepressor which is just a compressor for smoothing and to add punch. Then it's into the palmer ubertrieber overdrive which is an aggressive, mids forward pedal that I use on ace of spades. Next the bass soul food for some light drive and vintage warmth and then the big muff is used for any Muse covers. Next is the octaver which sounds cool on uptown funk but also works well with the Big muff to get a synth sound and finaly the roll boost just to boost volume when needed. The second smaller board actually sits on top of my amp with the aural xciter and the VT Bass on it as these are always on as part of my core tone along with the amps own eq. Edited April 25, 2016 by Painy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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