solo4652 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) I'm on the lookout for a good, cheap fretless to see how I get on without frets. I generally find P necks too wide, but J necks too narrow. Currently, I'm playing the Yamaha BB1024 and the neck is spot on for me - 40mm at the nut, I think. I also really like the P/J pickup layout and the simple Volume/Tone controls (as opposed to V/V/T) So, based on that, my shopping list for an ideal fretless would look something like: Passive, not active Side dot and fret markers P/J pickups Nut width somewhere between P and J Probably secondhand to get better VFM Budget: Up to £250 ish All suggestions gratefully received, thank you. Edited April 23, 2016 by solo4652 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franzbassist Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I think, new, [url="http://www.guitarsound.co.uk/esp-ltd-vintage-214-r-bass-black-7559-for-sale?gclid=CN3G6fjrpMwCFe4y0wodlsYPAg"]this[/url] is the closest to your spec: the ESP LTD fretless PJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahambythesea Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 You might be better off with a lined fretless to start with. I think Yamaha offer several and there are loads second hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHeart Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Why not get the Harley Benton Pj4 and either pay someone to convert it or do it yourself, £86 for the bass so its well within budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 My first bass, a Yamaha RBX270F, can be picked up for absolute peanuts and is a great bass. Not sure on the nut width though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgriff Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Its a shame the Yamaha bb1024 isn't available as a fretless......I wonder if anyone has done a fretted to fretless conversion of the 1024? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Second hand Yamaha BB fretless of some kind would seem to be the way to go, if you like the BB neck so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahambythesea Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Another thought for you, if you can find one, the Westone Thunder (particularly the 3 fretless) were first class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 [quote name='chrisgriff' timestamp='1461580669' post='3035769'] Its a shame the Yamaha bb1024 isn't available as a fretless......I wonder if anyone has done a fretted to fretless conversion of the 1024? [/quote] This BB414 has changed hands a few times on here - it has an unlined ebony board fitted: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc S Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) Squier do a nice lined fretless, in their Vintage Modified series. It's available as a P/J, and lined I've recently started to take fretless a little more seriously and have one. It's definitely a good starter fretless IMO The VM series are made in Indonesia, and are really good quality for the money Squier also do a PJ which is made in China - I tried 2 of these (fretted) and they're OK, but not as good as the Vintage Modified series..... I also liked the look of Retrovive's P bass fretless too, but that's unlined. Have fun searching EDIT: Here's a link to one at GAK in Brighton But I'm sure I've seen them nearer me, in GM (Gwent) Music for under £260 new http://www.gak.co.uk/en/squier-vintage-modified-precision-bass-pj-3-colour-sunburst/85160 Edited April 26, 2016 by Marc S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyctes Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 [quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1461423468' post='3034538'] My first bass, a Yamaha RBX270F, can be picked up for absolute peanuts and is a great bass. Not sure on the nut width though! [/quote] 40mm I think. I'm sure someone here knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc S Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 PS. I've also had 2 Precisions converted to P/J in the last few months. It's a pickup configuration I really like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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