Behringer XR18

[Dropzone]

Hi Guys I have been doing some research onto the best tablet / mixer / monitor send. The XR 18 ticks all the boxes, has anyone used it. Also does anyone have anything else where individual monitor mixes can be played with? Ta Mike

[Chrismanbass]

It has the dreaded B word written on it

you'll be fine as long as it works just don't expect it to last long or hope it breaks before the warranty runs out

other options include

soundcraft UI

[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/soundcraft_ui16.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/soundcraft_ui16.htm[/url]

rcf M18

[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/rcf_m_18.htm?ref=prod_rel_356321_10"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/rcf_m_18.htm?ref=prod_rel_356321_10[/url]

qsc touchmix

[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/qsc_touchmix_8.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/qsc_touchmix_8.htm[/url]

[Dropzone]

Indeed, that's what's holding me back from pulling the trigger. It looks like a great bit of kit with amazing functionality. Just wondering if anyone had used one for a while and not had any problems. No amp in there so shouldn't be too much to go wrong. But £600 is a lot to spend on the skoda equivalent of the music world.

[Marvin]

http://basschat.co.uk/topic/280596-behringer-x18-air/page__pid__3038803#entry3038803

[crez5150]

We've been running A&H QU series desks for a while and they are solid. We've just purchased an additional QU-PAC which is excellent but might be outside of your budget

[Dropzone]

[sub]Many thnks Marvin, I did remember seeing something on these. All sounds good. Ta[/sub]

[Woodinblack]

[quote name='Chrismanbass' timestamp='1462153075' post='3040669']
It has the dreaded B word written on it
you'll be fine as long as it works just don't expect it to last long or hope it breaks before the warranty runs out
[/quote]

Note that it has a 3 year warranty, unlike the others listed. I guess they are trying to get away from their old image.

I am planning to get a XR16, can't justify the 18 (although its clearly good), but nothing else has the same sort of functionality. I have used the X32 live. which was a revelation over what I had used before.

Frankly I haven't heard anyone with one have a bad word against them.

[Woodinblack]

[quote name='Dropzone' timestamp='1462265574' post='3041487']
But £600 is a lot to spend on the skoda equivalent of the music world.
[/quote]

I think that is a very appropriate analogy, skoda who constantly win all the what car reviews and best car of the year, somehow people still can't get away from the 30 year old image of the old air cooled skodas.

[FuNkShUi]

Ive been using it for best part of 20 gigs.
Never had an issue.
Brilliant bit of kit.
Not to say the other digital mixers aren't good, i just haven't tried them.
But the Behringer has been excellent for us.
I'm happy to answer any questions you may have about them

[FuNkShUi]

I was also going to mention, we have had other bits of Behringer kit with no problems.
So we have either been really lucky or their quality control is a lot better than it used to be?

Edited July 18, 2016 by FuNkShUi

[mr zed]

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/205633-in-ear-monitors-help-needed/page__st__390"]http://basschat.co.u...d/page__st__390[/url]

Also rack mountable - see post 400!

Edited May 3, 2016 by mr zed

[EBS_freak]

There are no problems with the XRx stuff. There's very little in them to go wrong as it's mostly software based and a lot of the tech has come from Midas know how. You should take a look at the Facebook group if you want some confidence - there are plenty of weekend warriors and DJs using them... along guys that roll out some seriously big rigs at more pro events.

They are seriously top pieces of kit - none of the competitors come even close to the fx racks in these bad boys.

[Dropzone]

Wow, all great response. The clincher for me would be whether you can play tracks wirelessly over the wifi from your device? Anyone know if you can? I can't justify the spend either but when has that ever stopped us ;-)

[EBS_freak]

[quote name='Dropzone' timestamp='1462359447' post='3042328']
Wow, all great response. The clincher for me would be whether you can play tracks wirelessly over the wifi from your device? Anyone know if you can? I can't justify the spend either but when has that ever stopped us ;-)
[/quote]

No you can't. Although it you were to source an apple express, you could use that as your router and stream via airplay... or you could try using a bluetooth music receiver - but you wouldn't be able to stray very far from it. I know people who use the latter with varying results (but I think that is mostly down to the quality of the streaming adapter that they are using).

[FuNkShUi]

We just get a lead to plug our phone/ipad/ipod into a normal input.
Does the job just fine.
I agree about all the FX on there.
Sooo many. Would cost a fortune to buy the separate FX racks and cables etc

[lowhand_mike]

we've just got the X32 Rack and its awesome if you need more inputs, sound quality is top notch and our drummer is happy that we can mic everything up. recording from it as well is a good feature. if the xr18 is anything like it it will be a good bit of kit

[51m0n]

Just got one a couple of weeks ago. It's excellent. Definitely give yourself time to do a tech rehearsal before the first gig to get everything sported so you only have to tweak things on the gig.

[Dropzone]

Indeed, don't underestimate my complete lack of understanding of technology. Can anyone recommend a decent Bluetooth receiver that will work minimalist with this? Ta

[Dropzone]

Alternatively, I presume you can playback tracks through a DAW through the mixer?

[neilp]

Skodas were never air cooled. Just saying

[51m0n]

[quote name='Dropzone' timestamp='1462444440' post='3043020']
Alternatively, I presume you can playback tracks through a DAW through the mixer?
[/quote]

Yep, upto 18 channels, but stereo are best going back through the aux channels (17 and 18). Leaves all your normal channels free.

I'm running 17 channels on mine:-

1. Vox
2.Trumpet
3. Bass Trombone
4. Guitar
5. Keys L
6. Keys R
7. Bass
8.
9. Low Conga
10. Mid Conga
11. High Conga
12. Hand Percussion
13. Percussion Stand
14. Kick
15. Snare
16 Drum OH
17. Mp3 L
18. Mp3 R

17 and 18 are a tiny little mp3 player that I just leave on shuffle all night long, I then bring the fader up when I want to hear it on FOH. Works for me.

If we end up with any need for even more inputs then we have several options, one is to get an XR16 and plug its outpus into 17/18 on the XR18.

I use a seperate router, better security, more clients can hook up, and more range as I can place it near front of stage meaning that in troublesome busy wifi areas I can get a mix out front without danger of dropouts.

Edited May 5, 2016 by 51m0n

[FuNkShUi]

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1462455404' post='3043151']


If we end up with any need for even more inputs then we have several options, one is to get an XR16 and plug its outpus into 17/18 on the XR18.
[/quote]

I cant see any time i'll need more, but that's a great idea!!

[leschirons]

[quote name='FuNkShUi' timestamp='1462275690' post='3041616']
Ive been using it for best part of 20 gigs.
Never had an issue.
Brilliant bit of kit.
Not to say the other digital mixers aren't good, i just haven't tried them.
But the Behringer has been excellent for us.
I'm happy to answer any questions you may have about them
[/quote]

Exactly the same for us. Great bit of kit, as yet no problems whatsoever and don't expect any. As always, with any bit of kit, it's success will depend on who's in charge of it on the night.

[Woodinblack]

[quote name='neilp' timestamp='1462444488' post='3043021']
Skodas were never air cooled. Just saying
[/quote]

Seems you are correct, I thought the old ones in the 80s were. I guess they just sounded it
They certainly used to overheat!

[mrtcat]

Absolutely nothing wrong with xr gear. We have the xr x-air 18 and have done 80+ shows with it. Behringer have really upped their game in recent years with their mixers and are a brand I'd trust without reservation in that field.