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Does no one want to make Prog Music?


JamesTun
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HI,

Just messaging this out of interest if anyone has or in a prog style band and wondering where the best places in the country for that genre are? I've been looking around in Yorkshire and can't seem to find anything. I like playing simple funk stuff but eventually I would like to make music of that ilk. Yorkshire is like the biggest county outside London as well..I know this isn't Joinmyband or anything but I'm interested if anyone has any success.

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It's definitely a bit of a niche interest, and then there are further niches within the genre. I mean, I would cheerfully join a band that was influenced by some of the eccentric 70s UK prog bands, but some of the music that gets called prog now sounds almost like a metal sub-genre and I don't really enjoy that stuff.

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[quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1463228973' post='3049735']
...some of the music that gets called prog now sounds almost like a metal sub-genre and I don't really enjoy that stuff.
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That would be prog metal then.

Happy to help!

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[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1463231225' post='3049761']
"Does no one want to make Prog Music?"

([i]Loud shouts from all directions[/i]...) [size=6]NO, NO-ONE..![/size]

[size=6] :lol:[/size][size=6] :P[/size]
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I apologise for this awful English, does anyone play prog any more***

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Prog can be anything from Radiohead to King Crimson, both at two sides of the scale. Obviously since Punk's evolution in the 70s, English prog rock has seemed to die out. But more recently, bands such as Haken, BTBAM have come out of the woodwork with influences of Gentle Giant, Genesis. I guess this then begins to transcend in what you are referring to when you say progressive metal. This does interest me but its a very enclosed community, particularly in the North. I'm pretty sure there are frequent stuff going around this genre in London, maybe I'm just missing a trick by living in Yorkshire where people don't want to jam with you as you have no transport or live in another city..

[quote name='Wooks79' timestamp='1463228764' post='3049733']
You may not be looking in the right places as there are people playing stuff that at the very least touches on prog all over.

You tried any prog specific forums maybe?

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Which forums would you suggest? I only use Joinmyband currently and perhaps this is where I have been going wrong. Certainly Jazz circles don't use this medium as there are plenty of workshops around Sheffield which probably pre-occupy their time.

[quote name='sifi2112' timestamp='1463231774' post='3049767']
I'll do some prog stuff as long as it's not too complex as I'm rubbish too :)
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I'm not saying I'm Jaco Pastorious or anything but I'd like to develop some of my skills in this genre which get neglected in the band I'm currently in.

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[quote name='JamesTun' timestamp='1463232138' post='3049774']... as you have no transport ...
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What kind of transport do you lack..? Without seeming facetious, would a bike not be an option for really local stuff, with a light combo on the carrier and a bass as a backpack..? I think I've seen on this forum mention of folks gigging by bus or train. I understand, of course, that an Ampeg fridge would require a car or van, but are there really no transport options open at all, with appropriate gear..?

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The genre is indeed still alive and well.....
A friend of mine is a rediculassly talented pro/ session guitarist who has just released his 2nd solo album which appears to be doing great! (And it is too)
His solo stuff is under the monika "the Dave" , but dave foster has played with mr so&so, tours regularly with steve Rothery band (ex marillion) and regular guest slots with Panic Room.

Check him out :)

https://thedave.bandcamp.com/track/ache


https://thedave.bandcamp.com/

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[b][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][size=4][quote name='Agwin' timestamp='1463248392' post='3049972']
Although my current band is basically a rock band we do have prog/prog metal (ish) leanings - and it's starting to show in some of our newer original material.
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[b][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][size=4]Same here but the big problem is that I can't find many places to play it. It seems to me that most "prog" festivals, radio stations and other outlets are interested in retro rather than new music. Check them out and you will find lots of 70's bands playing. Some of the sub-genre's that I would have called prog back the day are those that are now at Festivals such as ArcTanGent. [/size][/font][/b]
[b] [i] "[/i][b][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][size=4][i][b]ArcTanGent is the world’s ultimate music festival for connoisseurs of Math-rock, Post-rock, Noise-rock, Alt-rock and everything in between."[/b][/i][color=#222222] [/color][/size][/font][/b][/b]

[b][b][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][size=4][color=#222222]The band that I play in (The Angry Badgers/See link below) is a cross genre/prog band and we get played by rock and metal stations[/color][/size][/font][/b][/b]


[b][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][size=4]I think prog is currently a dead or retro band term.[/size][/font][/b]

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[quote name='JamesTun' timestamp='1463232138' post='3049774']
Which forums would you suggest? I only use Joinmyband currently and perhaps this is where I have been going wrong. Certainly Jazz circles don't use this medium as there are plenty of workshops around Sheffield which probably pre-occupy their time.
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I tend to see most stuff on Facebook groups really, things like one called 'The Math Rock/Instrumental/Post Rock exchange' or on pages and websites for relevant festivals such as ArcTangent Festival.

I don't know where exactly Yorkshire you are, but check out a band called Order of Voices, they touch on the Tool-esque. They are from Barnsley/Sheffield type way. Played some gigs with them and have stayed in touch. Top blokes.

Where are you based?

EDIT: ArcTangent mentioned whilst I was typing my response - Great minds eh ;)

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[quote name='Wooks79' timestamp='1463250316' post='3049993']
I tend to see most stuff on Facebook groups really, things like one called 'The Math Rock/Instrumental/Post Rock exchange' or on pages and websites for relevant festivals such as ArcTangent Festival.

I don't know where exactly Yorkshire you are, but check out a band called Order of Voices, they touch on the Tool-esque. They are from Barnsley/Sheffield type way. Played some gigs with them and have stayed in touch. Top blokes.

Where are you based?

EDIT: ArcTangent mentioned whilst I was typing my response - Great minds eh ;)
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Order of Voices, I'll check them out. Yes, I'm situated in Sheffield currently. There is a few math bands knocking around which is cool, sounding like Foals etc. I'll join some of these groups, see if anything comes to fruition.

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I don't really follow the old school prog bands any more but there's some decent music with prog influences happening in Sheffield. Not sure if that's what you're after but you might find something to enjoy out of these.

Gilmore Trail - instrumental post rock with a traditional 4 piece band setup. Currently in need of a drummer.
[url="https://gilmoretrail.bandcamp.com/album/the-floating-world"]https://gilmoretrail.bandcamp.com/album/the-floating-world[/url]

Fly On Byrd Fly On - More instrumental post rock influences but with synths and samples.
[url="https://soundcloud.com/flyonbyrdflyon"]https://soundcloud.com/flyonbyrdflyon[/url]

Awooga - Contemporary, heavy take on prog.
[url="https://awooga.bandcamp.com/"]https://awooga.bandcamp.com/[/url]

inFictions - More contemporary again but mellower than Awooga. I played bass/synths/glockenspeil/vibraphone/mandolin on this (not at the same time).
[url="https://infictions.bandcamp.com/album/maps-of-revenge-and-forgiveness"]https://infictions.bandcamp.com/album/maps-of-revenge-and-forgiveness[/url]

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There's an It Bites forum that can get quite tasty argument-wise. No doubt there is a Genesis forum and a Marillion forum as well as loads of others.

I think you probably need to decide what exactly you want to play. What era and what artists. Then find a forum. There will be musicians on them.

I have a selection of friends who are always talking about getting a prog band together but unless you're going to play prog hits it's a very specialist market. Probably just as specialist as the originals scene. If you market it well you'd definitely get pub gigs and a following. Assuming you can drag some fans away from their XBoxes and Linux PCs. ;)

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I've bought Prog magazine a couple of times recently. Going by the cover CD prog is still going strong especially in Eastern Europe. Not sure what the Yorkshire scene is like though :)

We have two or three vintage prog songs on our covers band set list. They are mainly there as self-indulgent showing off (which is pretty much what prog is all about!) but go down well when mixed in with a load of rock, pop & funk

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