tonewheels Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) What is it with drummers and rimshots? The majority of them these days, the first thing they do after they've set up is hit a really loud rimshot. Thanks for that, I really needed that pain in my life. And more and more I'm finding them consistently playing the bloody things throughout the gig. They've spent top dollar on a great sounding snare and all they want to do is make it sound like a deafeningly loud biscuit tin. Fortunately I'm getting older and less tolerant so that's always the last gig I do with them. And for try outs I'm adopting a zero tolerance approach too. If they're trying out, one rimshot and they pack their bags. If I'm trying out, one rimshot and I walk. It's the only way to be certain. This pestilence must be stamped out entirely. Edited May 22, 2016 by tonewheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr zed Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Ah.....but is it a rimshot or a miss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonewheels Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) [quote name='mr zed' timestamp='1463950672' post='3055310'] Ah.....but is it a rimshot or a miss? [/quote] Nope this is deliberately hitting rim and skin simultaneously as hard as possible just to reinforce the neanderthal stereotype. Edited May 22, 2016 by tonewheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Sad, isn't it..? Some 'bassists' slap, too. It stems from the same glands, I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Rimshots are very irritating, purely down to the volume. A drummer I know does them on every hit on the snare and is deafening as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probablypike Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1463957628' post='3055388'] Sad, isn't it..? Some 'bassists' slap, too. It stems from the same glands, I reckon. [/quote] Aha. Somehow I cant imagine drummers doing nothing but rimshots the whole way through namm and other drum get togethers, though (unlike the bass equivalent). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I thought for a moment that "Rimshots" was one of those weird drinking games that first year Uni students are expected to play. Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenitram Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I thought you meant the nice sound you get when laying the stick on the skin and tapping the beat on the rim. Used in quieter passages usually. Is that also a rimshot? I'm a drummer so I should know these things, but I don't. I don't think I've ever hit a rimshot as described in the original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakester Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1463977795' post='3055416'] Rimshots are very irritating, purely down to the volume. A drummer I know does them on every hit on the snare and is deafening as a result. [/quote] They don't *have* to be played at ear-splitting volume. It's not the technique that's the problem, it's the application of it, in just the same way that a bassist who refused to turn their amp down is also overbearing. Of course, it's probably down to the fact that everyone else in the band is amplified and turned up way too loud, and the drummer has to play hard to hear themselves... Edited May 23, 2016 by Jakester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakester Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) [quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1463996803' post='3055570'] I thought you meant the nice sound you get when laying the stick on the skin and tapping the beat on the rim. Used in quieter passages usually. Is that also a rimshot? I'm a drummer so I should know these things, but I don't. I don't think I've ever hit a rimshot as described in the original post. [/quote] A 'rimshot' is generally described as stick striking rim and skin at the same time. What you're describing is sometimes called a 'rim knock' (though my old man used to call it a rimshot). Edited May 23, 2016 by Jakester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The drummer from The Specials was nicknamed 'Prince Rimshot' He was an excellent ska drummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 [quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1463996803' post='3055570'] I thought you meant the nice sound you get when laying the stick on the skin and tapping the beat on the rim. Used in quieter passages usually. Is that also a rimshot? I'm a drummer so I should know these things, but I don't. I don't think I've ever hit a rimshot as described in the original post. [/quote] You're thinking of 'cross-sticking' (although other terms are sometimes used, including, wrongly, 'rim-shot'...). Both techniques are effective; all the more so for their rarity. As usual, it's a question of dynamics. 'Variety is the spice of life' and all that, what..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonBassAlpha Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I love the sound as a tonal accent. If you use it all the time it isn't an accent.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 [quote name='Jakester' timestamp='1463996936' post='3055572'] A 'rimshot' is generally described as stick striking rim and skin at the same time. [/quote] How do you do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyquipment Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 [quote name='SpondonBassed' timestamp='1463996091' post='3055556'] I thought for a moment that "Rimshots" was one of those weird drinking games that first year Uni students are expected to play. Carry on. [/quote] 😂 strait outta the arsenal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 [quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1464003293' post='3055639'] How do you do that? [/quote] http://youtu.be/mwjIdD0gbQ4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT09wbZ6eqs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) Rimshots, not high on my list of issues or concerns. If a drummer can keep time and groove I'm good. Blue Edited May 24, 2016 by blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras52 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 [quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1464102157' post='3056566'] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT09wbZ6eqs [/quote] "I wanna rim shot" is a lot easier to sing than "I wanna cross-stick" :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leschirons Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Used properly and tastefully, they're a great tool. A lot depends on where on the stick you're hitting the rim. When I used to play regularly, I'd sometimes throw one in but the rim contact was only about 4" from the stick tip. I found this kept the volume right down but gave the required effect. Muscle power aside, the nearer to the hand that the stick contacts the rim, the louder (and more annoying) it's likely to be. I've met a couple of drummers who can only actually keep time if their playing super loud rim-shots and once they're in the habit, all is lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameronj279 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 [quote name='MoonBassAlpha' timestamp='1464003115' post='3055637'] I love the sound as a tonal accent. If you use it all the time it isn't an accent.... [/quote] This...our drummer is a heavy hitter and often does rim shots but knows when not to. Everything in its place is a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman Sam Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 [quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1464003293' post='3055639'] How do you do that? [/quote] I can point you to some adult websites that demonstrate this well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd1 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1463957628' post='3055388'] Sad, isn't it..? Some 'bassists' slap, too. It stems from the same glands, I reckon. [/quote] Now that really made me laugh, that did brilliantly put Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 When I was younger and used to play in metal bands, our drummer used to do blast beats with rim shots. Utterly deafening but sounded sick as chips. Back then we were just obsessed with making as much racket as possible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivansc Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 [quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1463996803' post='3055570'] I thought you meant the nice sound you get when laying the stick on the skin and tapping the beat on the rim. Used in quieter passages usually. Is that also a rimshot? I'm a drummer so I should know these things, but I don't. I don't think I've ever hit a rimshot as described in the original post. [/quote] That is the (Nashville/country/cool latin) standard cross stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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