jonnythenotes Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Drummer... Biggest slice of it. Keyboards... Almost as much. Guitarist, or guitarists (complete with pedal boards).....Most of what's left. Lights, desk, stands and speakers..... Shoe horned in where you can get them.... Vocalist.... Whatever is left at the front. Bass player.... Behind, at the side of, or so close to his cab that he can't step back without being on top of it. This also stops said bass player having any idea what he sounds like as he is in the worst place possible to hear his own instrument. Bass players seem to be in a perpetual ' Groundhog Day' situation of having to fight for space so they feel part of the band, instead of being treated like a modern day 'scullery maid' and hidden bellow the stairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapiro Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 PA First, Drums Second, generally. But then its anyones game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Get into the habit of 'accidentally' smacking people round the back of the bonce with your headstock. You'll find that your allotted stage space will magically increase... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfretrock Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1463994157' post='3055532'] Get into the habit of 'accidentally' smacking people round the back of the bonce with your headstock. You'll find that your allotted stage space will magically increase... [/quote] Another of Leo's secrets - why he made the headstock bigger than teles or strats, nothing at all to do with those fat strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom in Dorset Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Lead vocal duties mean I get stuck at the front! In my main band I'm one of three singers so it's our lead guitarist who tends to get whatever space is left over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfretrock Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1463994157' post='3055532'] Get into the habit of 'accidentally' smacking people round the back of the bonce with your headstock. You'll find that your allotted stage space will magically increase... [/quote] It's all in the strap. [url="https://youtu.be/-yHowHsFxDA"]https://youtu.be/-yHowHsFxDA[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japhet Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 When my band used to be 5 piece (Vox, 2x guitars, drums, bass) I could never, try as I might, explain to the pot basher that he should set up right of centre so that the 2 of us on the left had room to breathe. Every friggin' gig we'd get there and he'd assembled his huge kit dead centre. Like talking to a cabbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1463995530' post='3055552'] What really annoys me is when there is an even number in the backline and drummer insists on setting slap bang in the middle thereby forcing two of the remaining back line to be in each other's way[b] with the remaining one on the other side having enough room to set up their gear and a have BBQ in the space left over[/b]. It is all about the drums after all. [/quote] Edited May 23, 2016 by CamdenRob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I sing backing vox, so I am generously allocated space at the front to get my mike stand in. Our lead guitarist doesnt sing, so he has to stand at the back near the toilets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Trio FTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 50% of the stage for the singer, 25% for the guitarist, 20% for the drummer and 5% for the bass player. If you have keyboards and/or a brass section they have to fit into the bass players 5%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfox Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 [quote name='Norris' timestamp='1463998021' post='3055593'] Trio FTW [/quote] Same here and like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Daveo Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I'm wireless and shall go where I want, out of the way peasants .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubrad Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I've been 'experimenting' with effects recently, mostly at home or on just one or two projects. I've just started carrying my 'live' fx board when gigging with the worst offending band, thus I can say I need this space in front of me. Otherwise someone will stand there. That close! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggy Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 [quote name='Japhet' timestamp='1463997214' post='3055579'] When my band used to be 5 piece (Vox, 2x guitars, drums, bass) I could never, try as I might, explain to the pot basher that he should set up right of centre so that the 2 of us on the left had room to breathe. Every friggin' gig we'd get there and he'd assembled his huge kit dead centre. Like talking to a cabbage. [/quote] Very true words. Exactly the same problem here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troubadour Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Last gig I had to stand on the stairs . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 [quote name='troubadour' timestamp='1464001012' post='3055622'] Last gig I had to stand on the stairs . . . [/quote] At the top? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I try to negotiate and say that everyone will be watching the lead guitarist anyway so he might as well stand on the far end, then I can turn my amp up so loud that he can't hear himself when he stands in front of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Eventually there'll be a gig where I have so little room that I'll watch the band from the bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) Was in one band , stage left Guitarist , plus 4 guitars on stands, rear but slightly Right Drums, Stage Right Keys, Brass, BV and bass, Front, but slightly Right Lead Vox. Didn't last long Edited May 23, 2016 by lojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) I can't say this has ever been an issue... yeah some gigs are tight with tiny stages, where everyone is cramped, but I've never had the issues you guys are describing with other band members taking up more space than is reasonable? All the bands I've been in, we've just looked at the space available and then setup in a way that works best for everyone... you know... like reasonable adults Edited May 23, 2016 by CamdenRob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 [quote name='Norris' timestamp='1463998021' post='3055593'] Trio FTW [/quote] No drummer FTW. [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1464006620' post='3055666'] ...looked at the space available and set up in a way that works best for everyone... like reasonable adults [/quote] 'Dad, when I grow up I want to be a musician.' 'You can't do both, son.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_lefty Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Being kack handed I stand on the right so there's no risk of headstock clashing. The singer likes the symmetry my upside down handedness brings to the visuals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I turned up late to a pub gig and found that the guitar, drums and keys had set up and left me precisely zero space!! During the whole process of load in and set up it hadn't occurred to them that a bit of room might be needed for a bass player with his gear. I tried to make a joke about it but in my head there was a megaphone shouting "you brainless d*ckheads." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakester Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1464011484' post='3055723'] I turned up late to a pub gig and found that the guitar, drums and keys had set up and left me precisely zero space!! During the whole process of load in and set up it hadn't occurred to them that a bit of room might be needed for a bass player with his gear. I tried to make a joke about it but in my head there was a megaphone shouting "you brainless d*ckheads." [/quote] Should have got there earlier then, shouldn't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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