J66Bass Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 sorry about stupid question I'm getting very happy to detune my bass to DGCF but finding real hard to tune it , is there any bass turner you recommend to tune it to the right tune , hope you understand my question ,thanks jm I'm using a old korg turner ga30 does the new generation are easy to find DGCF tone pitch perfect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockfordStone Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 new generations are better, i find older ones used to struggle with bass frequencies as they are aimed at guitars. your best bet is to go to a shop and try some out, some are better than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubsonicSimpleton Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Does using the harmonics at the octave (fret 12) not work? Thats my go-to solution with tuners that have tracking issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammers Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I use the TC Electronic Polytune clip and it works great all the way down to a low B - So DGCF should be no problem! They're about £30 http://www.tcelectronic.com/polytune-clip/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J66Bass Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 thanks guy for the great advise really appreciate thanks . trip to music shops booked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1468845000' post='3093692'] Not a particularly accurate method, but close enough for rock'n'roll [/quote] Using a tuner that has trouble picking up open strings, I'd say as an alternative it is indeed very accurate. Whereas fretting the notes at the 12th fret isn't so, depending on instrument and set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubsonicSimpleton Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1468845000' post='3093692'] Not a particularly accurate method, but close enough for rock'n'roll [/quote] What's inaccurate about the octave harmonics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 One of mine is in DGCF and I usually tune the lower 2 strings (D & G) at the 7th fret, tuner copes fine with open C and F strings. No one has complained yet that it sounds out of tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 [quote name='SubsonicSimpleton' timestamp='1468845214' post='3093697'] What's inaccurate about the octave harmonics? [/quote] Indeed - I'd have thought that if you had problems with tuning at the twelth fret then your intonation was out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 The octave harmonic will always be exactly an octave above the open string, so it's just as accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I have used a Boss TU2 for about ten years with no issues tuning down to A on a five string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnesia Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 My old Korg DT10 works better for open strings down to A# than my newer Pitchblack. For that, I use the 12th fret harmonics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skybone Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I used DGCF for a long time. My trusty old Korg DT10 was excellent, though the Korg Pitchclip & TC Polytune Clip work very well too. Got an old Korg DA30 that handles it very well too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J66Bass Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 Thanks again for all of the advice.really appreciate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 You can get the boss Tu2 as a free app I have a Peterson rack tuner but it's So accurate it can take a while in a live situation , I use it for set ups . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassjim Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 i usually tune to D and Eb. best method for me is very quickly by ear pluck open D (or fret Eb on A string for Eb), pluck open E and turn the tuning peg as close as possible first time. Then quickly mute via foot pedal/tuner pedal (this one) and tweak as nessacary. By going with your ears first you will be very close if not spot on. Use same method to get back up to normal tuning. Not bad to practice by ear anyhow. what doesnt kill you ect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydog Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 [quote name='SubsonicSimpleton' timestamp='1468845214' post='3093697'] What's inaccurate about the octave harmonics? [/quote]The harmonic isn't exactly an octave. The harmonic series progressively drifts from ideal multiples as harmonic numbers increase, because the propagation speed of flexing increases with frequency for real strings. The effect at the octave is very small, but bigger at higher overtones. This is why some strings sound tuneful, and others don't, the same effect is found in bells and windchimes which can sound tuneful or clangy depending on shape and material. Some series of overtones sound good, some bad, and that's all about the non-ideal spacing of harmonics. LD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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