Lozz196 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 After a bit of advice, just sorted a small pedalboard and have left all leads connected. This is draining the batteries in my Tonehammer, bit not in my Sansamp or my Boss TU2. Any ideas why? I`ve messaged Aguilar as well, but to me the whole point of sorting a pedalboard is to not have to keep plugging in/unplugging leads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 Well hows that for customer service - Aguilar replied within some 15mins of my e-mail advising that the input jack needs to always be disconnected to save battery drain. Ideally it would be in the manual, but that is pretty good customer service in my view (and they`ve been pretty good every other time I`ve contacted them as well). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 It will be draining your other batteries too I bet, just slower... Thought of a power supply for your board? Cheaper in the long run. For the price of 2 sets of Duracells you could get a wee Harley Benton isolated supply... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 Considered that but having played a few gigs where there weren`t any other plug sockets available - when I was powering my pedals with PSUs - I decided batteries would be the better way. I`ve now got the patch-leads secured to the board so will unplug at the inputs after use. Bit annoying but at least I know it`s not a faulty pedal now. Still only two plugs so not the worst deal in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottastopbuyinggear Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 You can buy USB power packs and USB to 9v converters on Amazon. I spent £20 on a 16,000mAh power pack (which is knocking on 3 times the capacity of the old PedalTrain Volto) and £10 on the converter and it's been great. It was more a convenience thing for me - one less mains socket to find and lead to trip over, and quicker to set up/tear down. The only thing I found was that if there was no current draw then the power pack would power off, so if you're using a pedal that is truly off when it's off (if you see what I mean) or only draws a very small amount of power then you might have problems. I found a BDDI or VT Bass don't draw enough, but having a TU-3 in the chain is fine, presumably because it's buffered and the buffer's drawing enough power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 [quote name='Gottastopbuyinggear' timestamp='1469014362' post='3095060'] You can buy USB power packs and USB to 9v converters on Amazon. I spent £20 on a 16,000mAh power pack (which is knocking on 3 times the capacity of the old PedalTrain Volto) and £10 on the converter and it's been great. It was more a convenience thing for me - one less mains socket to find and lead to trip over, and quicker to set up/tear down. The only thing I found was that if there was no current draw then the power pack would power off, so if you're using a pedal that is truly off when it's off (if you see what I mean) or only draws a very small amount of power then you might have problems. I found a BDDI or VT Bass don't draw enough, but having a TU-3 in the chain is fine, presumably because it's buffered and the buffer's drawing enough power. [/quote] Do you have links to the stuff on amazon by any chance? I know I could search myself but it's always nice to have somebody's say so that a thing works rather than finding something random and discovering for yourself that it doesn't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayDownThaFunk Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Buy a 4/6 way extension and a good PSU... You found the socket to plug your amp in alright? Common sense really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 [quote name='LayDownThaFunk' timestamp='1469029937' post='3095225'] Buy a 4/6 way extension and a good PSU... You found the socket to plug your amp in alright? Common sense really. [/quote] Yup, this, all day everyday. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) Although white extension leads are apparently frowned upon in some quarters! Edited July 21, 2016 by JapanAxe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 There are times when it feels like it is a bit of a pain to plug in power, so I invested in something like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-2A-Battery-Box-AA-Battery-Clip-for-8-Batteries-with-DC-Cover-Switch-/291425322546?hash=item43da4d8632:g:biEAAOSw7aBVDQoh You have to make sure you get one with the correct output polarity (or in my case re-solder the power plug cable inside the box) I then bought 8 Panasonic Eneloop rechargeables. I think I managed to do the whole lot for under £20. I now have a stable battery back that I can drop on most pedal boards. It has been a few rehearsals now and I haven't recharged yet! I like that the box also has a power switch. So if this were attached to your board too, then a flick of a master switch will turn everything off. Further more, when it comes to recharge, you won't have to remove a single pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I went with the 8 battery 12volt version because I knew that rechargeable batteries only supply 1.2v - so, I gain from having two extra batteries in there but 1.2v x 8 = 9.6v. My pedals are getting the power they expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 [quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1469087661' post='3095568'] Although white extension leads are apparently frowned upon in some quarters! [/quote] Buy a black one? Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrixn1 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I have one of these: http://www.thomann.de/gb/rockboard_power_lt_xl.htm It can supply power while it's recharging - so at gigs I tend to plug it in if there happens to be a convenient socket; but if there isn't, I don't. It has lights on it which indicate how much charge is left. No need to ever remove it from pedal board or open it up to extract batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 Two different PSUs, connecting cable between two pedals, extension leads, it would be easier to just set up the pedals without the pedalboard. Appreciate the options guys but with a 15min changeover for both bands on stage, time is of the essence. Using batteries it`s two leads, one to amp, one to bass and that`s it, got to keep it all to a minimum, both in setting up times and amount of equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayDownThaFunk Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 And removing leads from inputs to stop any battery drainage... Don't know why you think PSUs take longer to set up? You literally just plug them in - everything else is already connected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Yes, for me, having a good pedal board is infinitely quicker to setup than individual pedals. And if you set it up with the right power-supply, then you only need 1 extra plug. Now if you play one particular venue that literally has no spare plug.........then I'd suggest a polite word in the sound persons ear to "buy an extra 4 way" would be in order. I've played a LOT of toilet-circuit tours and shows, there's always enough plugs if you ask politely. Anyway, considered the PedalTrain Volto? Same deal as the above, basically a PSU that you can charge and run like a big battery on the gig, daisy chain your pedals, then just get an 18v adapter for the Tonehammer from Gigrig: [url="http://www.thegigrig.com/doubler-c2x17796187"]http://www.thegigrig...ler-c2x17796187[/url] The Tonehammer might run it down quicker than normal at 18v, but hey.....probably going to be cheaper in the long run than 9v batteries every single week. Easy Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottastopbuyinggear Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 [quote name='Bigwan' timestamp='1469022674' post='3095158'] Do you have links to the stuff on amazon by any chance? I know I could search myself but it's always nice to have somebody's say so that a thing works rather than finding something random and discovering for yourself that it doesn't! [/quote] These are the ones: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00OJXVDAU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B011LO5KOO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 [quote name='Gottastopbuyinggear' timestamp='1469172051' post='3096240'] These are the ones: [url="https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00OJXVDAU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1"]https://www.amazon.c...0?ie=UTF8&psc=1[/url] [url="https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B011LO5KOO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1"]https://www.amazon.c...0?ie=UTF8&psc=1[/url] [/quote] Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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