Horizontalste Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) I really didn't want to come here asking another "how do I get this tone" question but I'm struggling with it a little bit so here I am cap in hand. I've used Too Young To Die as an example but there are lots of tracks from a plethora of players that all seem to have the sound I crave. It's not so much the whole tone of the bass I'm interested in but the rattle sound towards the end of the notes played. I've always likened it to a cab rattling, that's how I hear it in my head anyway. If anyone knows what the bella fleck I'm on about please enlighten me. I'm not sure if it's effects or a mids boost or similar but I've heard it many times but can't emulate it. I know the funk is in the gunk & tone is in the fingers but I think there's more at play with this. https://youtu.be/mjeWKssl8Ic Cheers Edited July 20, 2016 by Horizontalste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman68 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 A healthy dose of compression & 'digging in' with a low action, to my ears? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painy Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) [quote name='Bassman68' timestamp='1469018945' post='3095107'] A healthy dose of compression & 'digging in' with a low action, to my ears? [/quote] Yup, this. It's basically subtle fret rattle with compression keeping it all tight and punchy. Edit: Bright new strings too - no 'gunk'! Edited July 20, 2016 by Painy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontalste Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 Spot on fella's thank you. I'm trying it out as we speak & I'm very much in the ballpark, more compression than I normally would use & definitely digging in more. Can't believe this was right under my nose all along. Thanks again chaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painy Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 You could also try plucking a small fraction closer to the neck than usual so there's less string 'tension' (actually more compliance before anyone says anything - I know!). Glad it's getting there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontalste Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 Cheers Painy, I shall give it a try if my thumb allows (Stingray player). Definitely going to work at it, I usually play with a light touch so it does feel slightly foreign but the tone is worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I'm not sure if that growl i'm listening isn't from a valve amp/preamp. There's a breaking up there that i automaticly associate with a 12AX7. The rest is spot on like previously stated on other posts, digging the bass to cause it to rattle and "fart" the gain stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontalste Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 [quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1469023307' post='3095170'] I'm not sure if that growl i'm listening isn't from a valve amp/preamp. There's a breaking up there that i automaticly associate with a 12AX7. The rest is spot on like previously stated on other posts, digging the bass to cause it to rattle and "fart" the gain stage. [/quote] Initially that's what I thought, the only tubes I have are in a pre & I tried that but without digging in. I'll drop it back in the chain & see what it brings to the party with the Opto-stomp & a heavy hand. I haven't been this horny for tone in a long time :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I've heard that Zenders killer Warwick tone came from a pink Stingray 5 on loads of recordings and live shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontalste Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1469035709' post='3095294'] I've heard that Zenders killer Warwick tone came from a pink Stingray 5 on loads of recordings and live shows. [/quote] I could see (hear) there being some truth in that Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontalste Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 Just an update to put this to bed. I tried my tube pre-amp pedal (Chinese eBay thing) into the Comp & I was unimpressed. I don't think 9v is enough to get the little tubes working optimally, so I put the MXR overdrive in with a little bit of drive & favouring the clean signal & it's great. Perfect for recording what I want to record. Cheers fellas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1469035709' post='3095294'] I've heard that Zenders killer Warwick tone came from a pink Stingray 5 on loads of recordings and live shows. [/quote] Shame you don't have a Streamer Stage 1. All on the bridge pickup, with the onboard bass boosted to compensate, and you're getting as close as an instrument will get you too the sound you want. Burpy, tight, and fat, all at once. Mega compression too. "Too young to die" was recorded straight into the desk using a 1990 SS1. Glad Horizontalste got satisfying results though. I've never had the opportunity to try a Stingray. Didn't suspect they were so versatile. Edited July 21, 2016 by Fionn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuNkShUi Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 [quote name='Fionn' timestamp='1469133764' post='3096099'] All on the bridge pickup, with the onboard bass boosted to compensate, and you're getting as close as an instrument will get you too the sound you want. Burpy, tight, and fat, all at once. Mega compression too. "Too young to die" was recorded straight into the desk using a 1990 SS1. [/quote] That's exactly how i run my SS1!! Don't use compression though, so i might be tempted to give that a try.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 [quote name='FuNkShUi' timestamp='1469171108' post='3096229'] That's exactly how i run my SS1!! Don't use compression though, so i might be tempted to give that a try.... [/quote] Me too bud. My SS1 is from 1987, so it has the 2 way electronics. Always on the J pickup, with the bass fully up. I keep the treble in the middle for that Zender-type sound. Yeahhh, get into the loaded compression though man. It really compliments that sound from the bass. Tightens the natural punch in things even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuNkShUi Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 [quote name='Fionn' timestamp='1469173095' post='3096247'] Me too bud. My SS1 is from 1987, so it has the 2 way electronics. Always on the J pickup, with the bass fully up. I keep the treble in the middle for that Zender-type sound. Yeahhh, get into the loaded compression though man. It really compliments that sound from the bass. Tightens the natural punch in things even more. [/quote] Hahaha, mine is an '87 too! I'll try the compression next gig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontalste Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 [quote name='Fionn' timestamp='1469133764' post='3096099'] Shame you don't have a Streamer Stage 1. All on the bridge pickup, with the onboard bass boosted to compensate, and you're getting as close as an instrument will get you too the sound you want. Burpy, tight, and fat, all at once. Mega compression too. "Too young to die" was recorded straight into the desk using a 1990 SS1. Glad Horizontalste got satisfying results though. I've never had the opportunity to try a Stingray. Didn't suspect they were so versatile. [/quote] I've always associated Warwick' with the rock genre to be honest, even knowing that Stu Zender & Andrew Levy both used them on records I love. I really should shake the stigma & try one out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I can also get very close to the Zender sound on my spector without the need for any dirt. Roll the pickup blend so there's more bridge pickup than neck and then boost the bass by about 30%. New strings and compression really help too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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