Post your pedal board - Basschat style!!

[waynepunkdude]

Mine is quite basic

[cheddatom]

Can you explain why there is no volume drop? Or is my logic flawed? You know what I mean right: If I route two copies of a mono signal into a mixer (phase issues aside) then the output will be louder than when I fade down one channel and leave the other one up.

I'm not sure I meant a "stereo volume pedal" there is a "blend pedal" or something where you plug in two loops and use the exp pedal to blend between the two, meaning at the middle position it's both loops at equal level, and at either end it's one loop or the other, and everything in between.

"The problem with you idea of the stereo pedal is you can't effect either chain you can only do both or the one that is selected and not have say a clean side you can fade out and a noise side on full pelt all the way through."

I don't really understand this. If you had one loop clean, and one loop effected, you could fade from the middle position to just the effected version. I think I am misinterpreting you?

I will have a listen to the sample when I get chance (at work at the mo') - I really can't wait!

[waynepunkdude]

[quote name='tayste_2000' post='231654' date='Jul 2 2008, 10:55 PM']Done!





How hard is it to tell if you have a 25k EB volume pedal?


Dare you plug in?


Read the story here

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That looks like a serious amount of overkill to me.

[Finbar]

Its only overkill if you don't use it all.

[tayste_2000]

[quote name='cheddatom' post='231942' date='Jul 3 2008, 01:07 PM']Can you explain why there is no volume drop? Or is my logic flawed? You know what I mean right: If I route two copies of a mono signal into a mixer (phase issues aside) then the output will be louder than when I fade down one channel and leave the other one up.[/quote]

Your logic is flawed so if I split my signal with an active splitter (passive causes problems) when it's summed its more of a case of 1+1=1 instead 1+1=2 it's wierd I think while you expect it to do a 2 in theory in practice it does a 1. The soundclip is the best explanation of this

[quote name='cheddatom' post='231942' date='Jul 3 2008, 01:07 PM']I'm not sure I meant a "stereo volume pedal" there is a "blend pedal" or something where you plug in two loops and use the exp pedal to blend between the two, meaning at the middle position it's both loops at equal level, and at either end it's one loop or the other, and everything in between.[/quote]

I've never come across one, the closest is a Barge VFB-X which allows you to control the blend level between clean and effected but only 1 chain of effected

[quote name='cheddatom' post='231942' date='Jul 3 2008, 01:07 PM']I don't really understand this. If you had one loop clean, and one loop effected, you could fade from the middle position to just the effected version. I think I am misinterpreting you?

I will have a listen to the sample when I get chance (at work at the mo') - I really can't wait![/quote]

You do misunderstand me here as I'm talking about fading volume and controlling saturation which isn't really effecting volume (well not effecting max volume) when you hear it working it sounds like an overdrive you are turning the gain up on for example so it's getting louder and taking over more of the signal. only this works on many effects.

Best example is in the clip near the beginning I'm using delay on one chain and clean in another and I basically swell repeats in, it doesn't swell the delay but I can play for chords and have repeats on 2 and 4 without having to turn the pedal on and off loads during each bar.

[tayste_2000]

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='231956' date='Jul 3 2008, 01:17 PM']That looks like a serious amount of overkill to me.[/quote]

Good thing you don't have to use it then isn't it

[cheddatom]

[quote name='tayste_2000' post='232002' date='Jul 3 2008, 01:50 PM']Your logic is flawed so if I split my signal with an active splitter (passive causes problems) when it's summed its more of a case of 1+1=1 instead 1+1=2 it's wierd I think while you expect it to do a 2 in theory in practice it does a 1. The soundclip is the best explanation of this

I've never come across one, the closest is a Barge VFB-X which allows you to control the blend level between clean and effected but only 1 chain of effected

You do misunderstand me here as I'm talking about fading volume and controlling saturation which isn't really effecting volume (well not effecting max volume) when you hear it working it sounds like an overdrive you are turning the gain up on for example so it's getting louder and taking over more of the signal. only this works on many effects.

Best example is in the clip near the beginning I'm using delay on one chain and clean in another and I basically swell repeats in, it doesn't swell the delay but I can play for chords and have repeats on 2 and 4 without having to turn the pedal on and off loads during each bar.[/quote]

Well, now i'm looking for it I can't find the blender.

I understand your 1+1=1 analogy, I just don't understand why your 1+1=1. Do you have the volume pedals at the beginning of each chain as opposed to the end? And some sort of dirt/compression on each channel? This would explain it. Otherwise I don't understand because i'm pretty sure that on a mixer for example, 1+1=2.

I know that if you split your signal, it can be a case of 0.5 + 0.5=1, but then when you have one of the loops down to 0 it will total 0.5.

I will have a listen 'cos obviously it works in practice but I don't understand the theory (like most technology!).


EDIT: I had a breif flashback and thought that maybe the blender pedal was a gig-fx thing, but I can't find it on their site. Maybe it was earnie ball but I don't have time to look atm.

Oh, and I understand why you want 2 volume pedals now, as opposed to a blender, because sometimes you will want to be full on with one sound, and keep fading in and out another, which wouldn't work very well with a blender type pedal.

Edited July 3, 2008 by cheddatom

[tayste_2000]

You might be thinking of the Morley blender but I maintain it onl;y does effected and clean, either way it's a totally different concept to what I'm doing.

Maybe think of the mixer like a PA mixer when you plug 2 guitar's into a pa and one is playing through with the slider at 5, and you bring the other guitarist in and up to 5 the overall sound doesn't get louder, maybe fuller which can sometimes seem louder but only very slightly.

[cheddatom]

I thought 2 guitars at 5 would be louder than one, but I suppose I am wrong. I'll have to try it. Certainly two guitar amps are louder than one guitar amp, so two guitars are louder than one, so unless the mixer has some sort of automatic levelling.....?

I realise now that it's a different concept, yeh. Yours is actually a better idea. If my drummer hadn't fecked off you'd have inspired me to try something very similar!

[AREA]

[quote name='tayste_2000' post='231654' date='Jul 2 2008, 11:55 PM']Done!





How hard is it to tell if you have a 25k EB volume pedal?


Dare you plug in?


Read the story here

[url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5939125&postcount=202"]http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php...p;postcount=202[/url][/quote]



Holy Moses !!!!

What a huge Board...But it´s for @Home, isn´t it. Or do you gig with it ????

BTW: I like the Memory Man :wub:

[tayste_2000]

[quote name='AREA' post='232049' date='Jul 3 2008, 02:50 PM']Holy Moses !!!!

What a huge Board...But it´s for @Home, isn´t it. Or do you gig with it ????

BTW: I like the Memory Man :wub:[/quote]

It's for recording and jams I don't have any live projects currently that would need it, I have another board for my main band.

[joegarcia]

More Memory Man love:

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[waynepunkdude]

[quote name='tayste_2000' post='232003' date='Jul 3 2008, 01:51 PM']Good thing you don't have to use it then isn't it[/quote]


Damn right i barely know what the volume knob on my amp does

[umcoo]

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='232316' date='Jul 3 2008, 10:14 PM']Damn right i barely know what the volume knob on my amp does[/quote]

now THAT'S punk, dude! Oooh I'm ever so funny!

[waynepunkdude]

[quote name='umcoo' post='232317' date='Jul 3 2008, 10:16 PM']now THAT'S punk, dude! Oooh I'm ever so funny![/quote]


indeed you are.

But seriously i wouldn't know where to start with a pedalboard like that.

[Kev]

[quote name='joegarcia' post='232303' date='Jul 3 2008, 09:47 PM']More Memory Man love:

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brilliant looking board mate

[joegarcia]

Thanks man. Thats your old Rat on the right and your Bad Monkey on the left. Love them both.
Had a fairly big change around today and it's fantastic.

[Kev]

awesome stuff, they seem very happy

[cheddatom]

Tayste - I haven't listened yet, but I figured out what I was thinking about: a split before two effects chains, and an EB stereo pan pedal at the end of the two chains.

I had another idea - with your pedals it would be quite hard to fade one down, and fade the other up at the same time (unless you're sitting down?) you could wire one of them the opposite way round so that with your foot on both at the same time it would act as a blender type thing.

[tayste_2000]

[quote name='cheddatom' post='232597' date='Jul 4 2008, 12:12 PM']I had another idea - with your pedals it would be quite hard to fade one down, and fade the other up at the same time (unless you're sitting down?) you could wire one of them the opposite way round so that with your foot on both at the same time it would act as a blender type thing.[/quote]

Very true I mentioned this on TB a few days ago including the wiring them opposite ways round but then you lose that ability to swell both up at the same time so i't swings and roundabouts really just have to decide which feature is more important to you, studio work with this board I'd mainly be sitting down anyway

[cheddatom]

I spose if you're sitting down it'd be pointless. If you're gigging, then you could have one master volume pedal at the end to fade up both chains! Not that you have space


I've just counted, and I gig with more pedals than you! I would never have thought it from looking at the pornographic pics.

[stacedabass]

Heres my pedalboard so far! Nick

[cheddatom]

Very nice! Do you not use the TB loop?

[stacedabass]

Na not really, i bought it on evilbay, but i never really use it, i thought my tonebender would suck some tone, but it doesnt. Though i sometimes use the loop for two basses if i'm feeling adventurous!

[Ant]

mine is still the same as last time i posted i think... but i've taped down some weird guys face - which doesnt actually show up very clearly on this picture anyway.