Roady Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 [quote name='Finbar' post='120159' date='Jan 14 2008, 03:52 PM']Tom - I'm seriously looking into getting a Barge Concepts VFB-2 for blending, and for the feedback loop, so we'll see how the OD-20 is with it. It's just I'm a bit short of money at the moment - my Shuker is proving to be more of a cash-drain than I thought! If you still want it when I get round to sorting out my board again (whether I love it or hate it, I'm keeping it as it is for the time being), you can certainly have first dibs if I move it on, as you asked! It has a lot of scratches and stuff to it, so I wouldn't say it is perfect condition. But it still has the manual and box, all the knobs and it works perfectly well. Hell, it ain't gonna break, it says Boss on it ¬_¬ Cheers [/quote] I've used a VFB-2 and OD-20 together before, and although blending some clean signal in with the OD-20 certainly made it a lot more usable, I still didn't find the end result positive enough to justify keeping it on my board.... Its certainly worth getting a VFB-2 though, and if you haven't heard - they're bringing out a VFB junior, so it'll take up less space (albeit at the cost of the feedback loop) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayste_2000 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Every body with a feedback loop needs a EHX Bassballs trust me on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 finbar...i like you board man, very cool stuff, hows the super comp for bass?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 [quote name='tayste_2000' post='120184' date='Jan 14 2008, 04:15 PM']Every body with a feedback loop needs a EHX Bassballs trust me on that[/quote] Heh, i've been using mine like this! I've taken the BB off my board 'cos I never use it in any songs, but through the feedback loop it's great! The best settings on my feedback loop are whammy into OC-2 into Zoom B2 (for a little OD and a step phaser with rate control on the exp pedal) into bass balls into wah probe into ibanez SS10. I get weird pitch shifting with the wah probe, and cool rythms from the phaser and bass balls working together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammie17 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I've never seen the need for using effects when playing bass. As I have heard many bassists use them sparingly with taste, I've heard far more use them to cover up their short comings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finbar Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I'd love the VFB to be smaller, but I wouldn't want to lose the feedback loop, I think that would lose some appeal for me. I'll make room. I have a big enough board - the problem is just arranging everything so it is accessible. More pedals need the in/outputs on the rear instead of the sides >.< Would have loved your VFB Roady, but just missed out on it. I'm going to try out the OD-20 with blending, but I can imagine the results still won't be what I want, like you say. Kev - thanks The Supercomp doesn't get much use to be honest. I used to use it as a kind of volume boost for tapping before I got the MicroAmp. Doing that, I get a fair bit more noise. I don't really use it anymore, but I keep meaning to give it another go - it's locked in our practice room most of the time, and I just forget at practices! I'll get back to you about it if you want though, need to give it a bit of a fiddle As for the feedback loop... With the VFB, I would want a lot of my pedals in the loop for the feedback, but I wouldn't want to blend the signals of all of them. Is there a way round that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 pedal board, going by finances i think this will remain unchanged for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 ye ye, i intend to build one when i have time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umph Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 [quote name='tayste_2000' post='120184' date='Jan 14 2008, 04:15 PM']Every body with a feedback loop needs a EHX Bassballs trust me on that[/quote] pew pew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 nice uni is a bit heavy at the moment, but once iv got my projects out the way n sh*t, il get to havin a go at buildin one b&q good place to go then?? how thick wood did you get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayste_2000 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 [quote name='umph' post='120403' date='Jan 14 2008, 08:38 PM']pew pew[/quote] That's the one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umcoo Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 owners of feedback loops...is it possible to ge just a tiny box with a feedback loop? I know of the tonefactor mobius but aren't these discontinued? I really want t do the bassballs thing, but board real estate is low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayste_2000 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Tone Factor/MojoHand Mule [url="http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Reviews/Tone%20Factor/Mule/Mule.mp3"]http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Reviews/Tone...r/Mule/Mule.mp3[/url] EHX BassBall and Feedback Loop [url="http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Reviews/EHX/Bassballs/EHX%20USA%20Bassballs.mp3"]http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Reviews/EHX/...20Bassballs.mp3[/url] See if you can tell when the feedback loop gets turned on I'll speak to tone factor see if I can get you a Mobius made up special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umcoo Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 [quote name='tayste_2000' post='120474' date='Jan 14 2008, 10:10 PM']Tone Factor/MojoHand Mule [url="http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Reviews/Tone%20Factor/Mule/Mule.mp3"]http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Reviews/Tone...r/Mule/Mule.mp3[/url] EHX BassBall and Feedback Loop [url="http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Reviews/EHX/Bassballs/EHX%20USA%20Bassballs.mp3"]http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Reviews/EHX/...20Bassballs.mp3[/url] See if you can tell when the feedback loop gets turned on I'll speak to tone factor see if I can get you a Mobius made up special [/quote] Oh how kind! Would these be mates rates aswell?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayste_2000 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 They are whatever tone factor charge for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I don't think i'd like a board without a decent cover/case. Do you have a gig bag for it or something? umcoo - I think building a feedback loop has to be one of the easiest projects you can do. Why not give it a try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 That's be good for £50 as it looks angled. You could fill the lid of your flightcase with foam? Mine is like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayste_2000 Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 [quote name='dlloyd' post='120635' date='Jan 15 2008, 10:06 AM']Yep, I got the MDF offcut cut to fit a flight case I have. You can see the base of it in this photo: The only problem I have with it is that it's a little ungainly... the "lid" for it is much bigger than it needs to be, and the whole case has to be carried horizontally. I've already lost a fair bit of knuckle skin carrying it into our rehearsal space. I'm toying with the idea of getting one of these and converting it into a pedal board case: [url="http://www.theelectronicsshop.co.uk/flight%20case%20showmaster48.htm"]http://www.theelectronicsshop.co.uk/flight...howmaster48.htm[/url] (The case that is, not the contents... works out at about £50)[/quote] I could be interested in that case if you replace it, my band needs something for our multi track and things. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphappygarry Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 If an fx pedal is used as an 'effect' it can really do wonders. Playing with these sounds can really take your playing to places you normally dont go. Thinking outside of the box sort of thing. Taste is a subjective statement. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 [quote name='jammie17' post='120280' date='Jan 14 2008, 06:08 PM']I've never seen the need for using effects when playing bass. As I have heard many bassists use them sparingly with taste, [b]I've heard far more use them to cover up their short comings.[/b][/quote] and then of course there are those who don't have the ability to use effects or use the ones they have effectivly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 That's cool, thanks for the tip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammie17 Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 (edited) [quote name='dlloyd' post='120648' date='Jan 15 2008, 10:22 AM'][i][b]Like it or not, you've been using "effects" every time you plug into an amp.[/b][/i] You should maybe try broadening your view, pedals can be inspiring, or just plain fun. Get yourself a delay pedal and play around with it... You might find you enjoy it.[/quote] Now, now, you know what I meant. [quote name='slaphappygarry' post='120685' date='Jan 15 2008, 11:22 AM']If an fx pedal is used as an 'effect' it can really do wonders. Playing with these sounds can really take your playing to places you normally dont go. Thinking outside of the box sort of thing. Taste is a subjective statement. G[/quote] Sometimes thinking "outside the box", in a round world just doesn't cut it. [quote name='dlloyd' post='120695' date='Jan 15 2008, 11:35 AM']You do not like them. So you say. Try them! Try them! And you may. Try them and you may, I say. [/quote] Ahh green eggs and ham..... I had a jet phase years ago....30?.....it was fun but I never had any desire to use/abuse effects/pedals. I play straight to the amp with as clean and full a tone as I can get. Guys, I not dogging effects, I just have never had any need for them. Edited January 15, 2008 by jammie17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umph Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 get a napalm effects one, there pretty small and cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 napalm effects pedals are horribly overpriced, compared to someone like say red onion solutions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_the_bass Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 red onion solutions have put their prices up a bit as well - although they are still not as dear as napalm, they are more expensive than when i bought mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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