Kev Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I assumed analog but I don't actually know, it only needs 40ma. Here is a good thread which comments on the noise reduction whilst playing e.t.c. https://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=194020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Kev said: Thank god for that! I think there are a few schools of thought on splitter boxes really. Quality may be the key? The Darkglass parallel out is just a simple passive splitter. It’ll better than most cheapo jack adapters due to the fact it’ll be better shielded due to being in a metal box. But because it’s not buffered or isolated in any way, your main signal could be affected depending on what kind of pedal you plug into the parallel output. But mostly you’ll be fine and not notice anything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, GisserD said: *edit. i came to this conclusion as its really power hungry. My money is still on the fact it’s just a really well engineered regular noise gate. With a cool AF name and design! Filtering noise without tone suck is a tricky business (remember the Dolby button on cassette players?). Also 40mA is quite low for a digital pedal, most are in the 100mA ballpark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 quite right, i diddnt actually know the consumption. i was going by what it admits on their own website about them recomending a power supply as it eats batteries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, stewblack said: Speaking in the layest of layman's terms, is a noise gate like an upside down compressor? I was hoping someone more expert than me was going to revert on Stew's query, but here goes: I personally wouldn't describe it as an inverted compressor, because a compressor is typically acting on both the peaks and troughs of a signal, but more an inverted limiter (which I accept is a type of compressor); whereas a limiter cuts the signal above a certain threshold to limit peaks (e.g to protect your speakers and / or stop you sounding like a Richard mid-set if your hand decides to take on a life of its own), a noise gate stops any signal getting through until it reaches a certain threshold level e.g. to prevent annoying white and / or dirt-pedal noise. Edited August 17, 2019 by Al Krow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 hours ago, dannybuoy said: My money is still on the fact it’s just a really well engineered regular noise gate. With a cool AF name and design! Filtering noise without tone suck is a tricky business (remember the Dolby button on cassette players?). Also 40mA is quite low for a digital pedal, most are in the 100mA ballpark. I still think it’s Analog...have you seen something somewhere saying Digital? Not that it matters in the slightest, but power consumption is very low for digital, and the fact the manufacture refers to it as “power hungry” seems to indicate it’s analog, as I don’t think anyone could say 40ma is power hungry for digital. The Sentry is 100, for example. Just to be clear though, it does 100% remove noise around the note, you still seem to be doubting it 😂 I’ll try and record a sound clip at some point to demonstrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 *disclaimer* I have no clue of the internal mechanics of a noise gate, so I don’t even know if it’s possible to be analog or digital... 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Yes, it'll likely be analog. The reason I'm sceptical about it removing noise from the actual note is that I know how difficult that would be to achieve from an engineering perspective, and the maker only refers to it being a noise gate. All noise gates work on the same principal of only letting the signal through when it's over a certain level. The better ones are finely tuned in their response time so that your ears don't detect the noise as the note decays. Usually that's the only time you'll hear the noise, so if the Zuul clamps down really quickly and efficiently, it'll seem as if the noise has disappeared entirely. Noise reduction to remove the noise completely though, is a whole other ball game. It usually relies on digital trickery, much like noise cancelling headphones. It's much more advanced and would be a pedal first as far as I know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Like I say, it doesn’t remove the noise completely, so yes it is likely just that it’s very efficient...or it’s magic. End result is all I am concerned about, and end result is a very clean (well, no, but you know what I mean!) high gain sound that sustains throughout the natural decay of the note, as well as the basic muted noise gating action you’d expect. I love it 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliwobble Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 11 hours ago, MarshallBTB said: Nice. How do you find the wireless? The wireless is the audio teechnica system 10, and works exactly like it should. No drop outs, unless I’ve moved so far away that the time delay of the sound from the amp makes things unplayable anyway. They are discontinued now; I notice that the next generation of wireless stomp boxes are more compact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRockinRoadie Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 After a few years being inactive on Basschat; ive just come back to have a look through all your awesome pedalboards! I wish i had one to post.... but i now use a HX stomp 🙈🙈 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) A few changes on and off my board, since my last post on here a couple of months back. Final piece of the jigsaw, the Boss SY-1 arrived earlier today and is sitting snugly in it's place, giving my board a smug 'finished' feel to it (famous last words!) The SY-1 tracks like a deer hunter. I'm venison-ly happy 😊 For any of you interested in the signal chain, it's as follows: BASS ‘Clean’ input Smoothhound (wireless) Thumpinator (hpf) Becos Stella (comp) Boss SY1 (synth) Early mid-board: drive / fuzz Grizzly Bass (analogue) SA Aftershock (digital) Mastotron (gated fuzz) Red Ripper (ungated fuzz) Late mid-board: filters SA Manta (digital) 3Leaf GR2 (analogue) End board: modulation / delay Digitech Mosaic (octave up) HX Stomp (multifx +DI +headphone amp) AMP Total power draw, excluding the Stomp which has it's own PSU, is 1.3A and all powered by a MXR IsoBrick under the board. Edited August 30, 2019 by Al Krow 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Pedal. Board. Just the one. thinking about a reverb pedal, and an Ashdown foot switch needs to happen as I’ve started using the sub octave on one song. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 21 hours ago, Al Krow said: A few changes on and off my board, since my last post on here a couple of months back. Final piece of the jigsaw, the Boss SY-1 arrived earlier today and is sitting snugly in it's place, giving my board a smug 'finished' feel to it (famous last words!) The SY-1 tracks like a deer hunter. I'm venison-ly happy 😊 For any of you interested in the signal chain, it's as follows: BASS ‘Clean’ input Smoothhound (wireless) Thumpinator (hpf) Becos Stella (comp) Boss SY1 (synth) Early mid-board: drive / fuzz Grizzly Bass (analogue) SA Aftershock (digital) Mastotron (gated fuzz) Red Ripper (ungated fuzz) Late mid-board: filters SA Manta (digital) 3Leaf GR2 (analogue) End board: modulation / delay Digitech Mosaic (octave up) HX Stomp (multifx +DI +headphone amp) AMP Total power draw, excluding the Stomp which has it's own PSU, is 1.3A and all powered by a MXR IsoBrick under the board. Just recently joined BC and have been perusing some amazing set ups you guys have! Particularly appreciated you taking the time to set out your signal chain @Al Krow - really helps make sense of the board and why it's been set up as it has. See that you're a bit of a fan of drive and fuzz pedals, that's quite a hoard! 😀 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamiel Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 On 31/08/2019 at 13:52, Reaper said: Just recently joined BC and have been perusing some amazing set ups you guys have! Particularly appreciated you taking the time to set out your signal chain @Al Krow - really helps make sense of the board and why it's been set up as it has. See that you're a bit of a fan of drive and fuzz pedals, that's quite a hoard! 😀 4 pedals for drive and fuzz seems quite standard 😉😉 Okay kidding a little bit, I only have 3 fuzzes (+ a clean boost in between to get some extra girth out of them). But I sure want more! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Kamiel said: 4 pedals for drive and fuzz seems quite standard 😉😉 Okay kidding a little bit, I only have 3 fuzzes (+ a clean boost in between to get some extra girth out of them). But I sure want more! Haha - I know what you mean! Actually if we include his HX Stomp and the fact that SA Aftershock is really a drive multifx, Al Krow is on at least 5 and potentially up to as many as 50+ different drives. Now that is a hoard, agreed? 😂 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonse Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Few additions to the setup. Not wired up the power yet but its all running off a Walrus Audio Phoenix mounted underneath the board. The RTG and Echobrain at the top right are linked in a loop to the LS2 which I use for a creepy intro / outro to the bands set. The position of the Diamond compressor kinda annoys me but the large ends on the mogami cables force me to do it. Its always-on and I never fiddle with it so whatever. The STOP tin at the top contains my ear protection and reminds me to STOP playing too many notes... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 An update for me. Happy to have Inertia back on my board 😀 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee650 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) My board as it stands now! Everything except the comp and chorus (multi programmed with various chorus/flange/phasers) is in the T70 loop so the octave is totally clean underneath. The scrutator also has a moog expression for filter/bit crush sweeps 😁 Chain is EBS Multicomp set at multiband so the highs are compressed more than the lows Cog T70 octave set for channel 1 a clean octave sound with a deep filter setting and a hint of octave up. Chsnnel two filter set for a synthy buzzy octave with the dirty octave up at unison vol and the clean signal taken out, very synthy. The sub control set to sound as near as possible to rhe classic OC2 setting, is say it's 90% there😁 In the t70 loop Malleko scrutator (bit crush/sample rate reduction/filter wah) Boba fuzz (Mastatron clone, with a much heavier gate) MXR Bass Envelope filter EHX enigma Qballs (set for low pass filter and a downsweep, I don't use the distortion) Custom cog grand Tarkin Fuzz In series wirh the T70 Source Audio Gemini Chorus (set as above) Currently looking at adding a nice overdrive,but space is limited 😁 Edited September 21, 2019 by lee650 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Recently reconfigured nano board. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazBeen Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Current large (non Helix) board.... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haraszo Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) On 18/02/2018 at 18:27, haraszo said: New board is finally complete. Powerful and portable. signal chain: cali 76 > providence BFX-1 (L1: Boss OC-2 octaver / L2: Chase Bliss Audio Brothers / L3: RMI Basswitch Sonic Spark / L4: Strymon Mobius) > TC Polytune mini powered by 2x Strymon Ojai R30 Some changes... Would love to replace tc with mood from chase bliss, then I think I'm done Edited September 19, 2019 by haraszo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Loving that board! How do you find the evidence audio monorails? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haraszo Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 11 hours ago, GisserD said: Loving that board! How do you find the evidence audio monorails? Simple to make, robust and quality. Plus this colour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbass4k Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Finally got something resembling a board back together, relatively straightforward signal chain. The 3 off the board usually live on the desk for easy tweaking when going into the interface, cabsim, bass pre (logic clone with mods) and guitar pre (Hudson broadcast clone with mods). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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