fretmeister Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 I just couldn't bring myself to pay more for an empty board than the actual controller for my Helix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javi_bassist Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 This is the one I am using now. Very happy with the sound! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 hours ago, fretmeister said: Is there any noticeable latency from all the AD/DA conversion going on? Not that I noticed, I gigged it Sunday night - some ludicrous stuff going on (up to five simultaneous effects on each unit possible) but latency didn't appear to be a problem My fabourite was a distortion featuring octave up, octave down and several overdrive, big muff type stuff going on Along with noise gates and compression As I say ludicrous but enormous fun. My original idea was to collect ms-60b pedals and do a board full of them but they're harder to come by. Still planning to do it over time. The experience of using it live actually taught me a lot about what I really want to bring in and out and what is less useful. HPF, volume boost, compression, some kind of ott gnarly distortion, envelope, chorus and an always on tubey subtle grit. Occasional flange and phaser effects are useful as are octave and synth sounds but less useful than others. I think two B3 units would be awesome. Just to deploy as six standalone pedals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Not wired in yet so subject to minor change..... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 If one pedal (not a combo) was going to transform my sonic landscape, what should I add to my setup? Other than an SY1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Compressor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Cuzzie said: Compressor Sonic landscape??? @Al Krowwill be along shortly to tell you how wrong you are! What you really need for landscaping is a Futue impact or a Source audio C4... and a digger. Not sure what a "combo" is tho. So maybe a digger wont qualify. Edited November 26, 2019 by GisserD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cuzzie said: Compressor But which one? Already got one which works like a 'better knob', but which one is the dog's of compressors?😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Just now, GisserD said: Sonic landscape??? @Al Krowwill be along shortly to tell you how wrong you are! What you really need for landscaping is a Futue impact or a Source audio C4... and a digger. That's why I said, trying to cut Al off at the pass 😁. SY1 doesn't really count as they are like unicorn poo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Stub Mandrel said: But which one? Already got one which works like a 'better knob', but which one is the dog's of compressors?😁 ...oh please not here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Just now, GisserD said: Sonic landscape??? @Al Krowwill be along shortly to tell you how wrong you are! What you really need for landscaping is a Futue impact or a Source audio C4... and a digger. Doubt he will Every man’s landscape is different! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Stub Mandrel said: That's why I said, trying to cut Al off at the pass 😁. SY1 doesn't really count as they are like unicorn poo. If you think about it.... there are likley a huge many more unicorn poos..... than unicorn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Stub Mandrel said: But which one? Already got one which works like a 'better knob', but which one is the dog's of compressors?😁 Cali76 TX-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said: If one pedal (not a combo) was going to transform my sonic landscape, what should I add to my setup? Other than an SY1 KMA Audio The Tyler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 IMHO compressors and crossovers are two of the most subtle effects out there. I actually consider them utilitarian. I hardly think they achieve a "Sonic landscape". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, GisserD said: IMHO compressors and crossovers are two of the most subtle effects out there. I actually consider them utilitarian. I hardly think they achieve a "Sonic landscape". Can't really argue with that. 20 minutes ago, GisserD said: If you think about it.... there are likley a huge many more unicorn poos..... than unicorn. Or that! 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, Cuzzie said: KMA Audio The Tyler Fascinating. Ibut like my modelling guitar amp I can see it getting plenty of use at home but not much gigging. Unless I do succeed in starting a space rock band. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushbo Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) I'm in awe of some of the football pitch sized boards on display here, with their own generators, postcodes and "speak your weight" functions. By way of a contrast, I give you a terrible photograph of mine. I'm not even sure that it can be described as a pedal board as it's a piece of MDF, covered in gaffa tape with a few things stuck on it with velcro. I had a pretty comprehensive board a few years ago, but I found that most of the pedals rarely got used (other than the tuner). Occasionally, I'd hit the Q-Tron to simulate "adult entertainment" incidental music to amuse the lads at rehearsal, but other than that, I was carting around a slab of redundant gizmos to every gig. So, I flogged them all and bought a Zoom B3 and never looked back. The recent addition of the expression pedal (£20!) has meant that I have now programmed all my noises to work only when I rock the pedal up, meaning I have a much larger area to hit with my dainty but uncoordinated feet. There's a two gang extension socket on the board with a female iec connection, so I can use a regular kettle lead to power it all - I'm not a fan of having skinny power leads on the floor. Also on my bijou-boardette is a stick on clock - all the way from china - and a cute little tin where I keep the spare batteries for my SmoothHound wireless thing. It all lives in an old Makita drill case which I've padded out with an old foam camping mat. Oh, and a pick holder as well, for no reason other than I had one. Cheap? Yep. Cheerful? Very. Edited November 27, 2019 by rushbo 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, rushbo said: I'm in awe of some of the football pitch sized boards on display here, with their own generators, postcodes and "speak your weight" functions. By way of a contrast, I give you a terrible photograph of mine. I'm not even sure that it can be described as a pedal board as it's a piece of MDF, covered in gaffa tape with a few things stuck on it with velcro. I had a pretty comprehensive board a few years ago, but I found that most of the pedals rarely got used (other than the tuner). Occasionally, I'd hit the Q-Tron to simulate "adult entertainment" incidental music to amuse the lads at rehearsal, but other than that, I was carting around slab of redundant gizmos to every gig. So, I flogged them all and bought a Zoom B3 and never looked back. The recent addition of the expression pedal (£20!) has meant that I have now programmed all my noises to work only when I rock the pedal up, meaning I have a much larger area to hit with my dainty but uncoordinated feet. There's a two gang extension socket on the board with a female iec connection, so I can use a regular kettle lead to power it all - I'm not a fan of having skinny power leads on the floor. Also on my bijou-boardette is a stick on clock - all the way from china - and a cute little tin where I keep the spare batteries for my SmoothHound wireless thing. It all lives in an old Makita drill case which I've padded out with an old foam camping mat. Oh, and a pick holder as well, for no reason other than I had one. Cheap? Yep Cheerful? Very. I love everything about this. I can't wait to show you my cardboard pedal board /flight case when it's finished. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushbo Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, stewblack said: I love everything about this. I can't wait to show you my cardboard pedal board /flight case when it's finished. Finish it! Finish it now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, rushbo said: Finish it! Finish it now! it's too late, and I'm tired and out of gaffer tape........ sneak preview? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Just used an ME-50B at rehearsal, absolutely dandy thing - first time in ages I’ve used one. The Q-Tron looked on in disgust but after a factory reset and level set...absolutely fine; might have a few bits up for sale. I’m not mad on effects so this will do me just fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgie Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Little bit of soldering done today. Red - XLR Out - Balanced out straight from the Left Output of the HX Stomp to the desk Blue and Green - XLR Ins - L and R IEM feeds. I work with a lot of different sound guys from gig to gig, so I usually won’t know whether I have a mono or stereo IEM feed until I get there, and sometimes I won’t even have control of my own mix. To combat this, I take one side of the Stomp and connect it Yellow. The Schmidt Array connection box has a clever little function in that the Yellow and Green jacks are connected internally, so if you don’t connect anything to them on the external side, signal flows straight from Yellow to Green. This is originally designed for people who want the option of using their amps Fx Loop or just putting everything in front of the Amp. I’ve repurposed this idea so that if I can’t control my own mix, my bass will be sent directly to the Behringer P1, and I can use the balance knob to control the level of my bass separately to the monitor feed. Then all i’ll have to do if I get a stereo feed, is plug the Green jack in and the signal will reroute automatically. Yellow will also double as an output to an Amp if needed (I don’t use an amp these days). Black and White are my Bass Input and IEM Output, respectively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, AndyTravis said: Just used an ME-50B at rehearsal, absolutely dandy thing - first time in ages I’ve used one. The Q-Tron looked on in disgust but after a factory reset and level set...absolutely fine; might have a few bits up for sale. I’m not mad on effects so this will do me just fine. I have a similar issue. My Q-Tron was bought because I liked the Zoom patch based upon it. And I think the Zoom does it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, stewblack said: I have a similar issue. My Q-Tron was bought because I liked the Zoom patch based upon it. And I think the Zoom does it better. I think the Q-Tron does it better, but it’s for 16 bars in one song. Not sure I need a dedicated unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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