ped Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Check out this synth sound I came across on YouTube whilst looking for inspiration this morning 1:41 is the clearest part [media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=EMqvc8JUgcg&feature=youtu.be&t=1m41s[/media] Fairly random song but I love the bass. The band are actually awesome and I've stalked them over the internet today. Wonder if anyone here knows them? Turns out the synth is a Roland GR Analog synth, vocal mode with some envelope filtering on top. It took me about an hour but starting with the basic patch I was able to get exactly the same sound, albeit on a long scale bass, where it gets REALLY syrupy down to low D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazBeen Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Synth glutton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I take it you used a Roland to copy it also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 [quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1472059842' post='3118123'] I take it you used a Roland to copy it also? [/quote] Yeah, I found the video when I was trying to find something else VB99 based Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommorichards Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Very sexy synth sound, and extremely odd video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 [quote name='tommorichards' timestamp='1472069409' post='3118263'] Very sexy synth sound, and extremely odd video [/quote] Some of the other videos are even odder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westenra Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 What is that bar next to the bridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted August 25, 2016 Author Share Posted August 25, 2016 [quote name='Westenra' timestamp='1472080792' post='3118433'] What is that bar next to the bridge? [/quote] That's the Roland pickup, attached to the 'brain' which is stuck onto his bass. You can also install the brain inside the instrument. Having individual processing of each string makes this synth sound so good, I don't think a monophonic filter would track well enough in the fast bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoirBass Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Can you share the patch you made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 [quote name='Westenra' timestamp='1472080792' post='3118433'] What is that bar next to the bridge? [/quote] A simple B flat on the one and three Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 [quote name='NoirBass' timestamp='1472192271' post='3119217'] Can you share the patch you made? [/quote] Sure - I'll have to simply type the settings down as I haven't got the facility to do a system dump or whatever it's called using MIDI at this point Start off with the 'Chameleon' preset (I think it's patch 120 unless you've moved it) COSM bass settings page 1 COSM Bass - on. Type - Synth Synth Type - Analog GR Master level - 100 Page 2 Mode - VCO Comp - Off Page 3 Cutoff Freq - 58 (though I adjust this with the knob on the bass to change the sound, 58 matches the video) Reso - 77 (Env Mod) - ON Sens - 35 Attack - 25 Page 4 Off Page 5 (Sweep) ON Rise - 32 Fall - 24 (Vibrato) - Off Page 6 EQ - On (but flat, just total gain +10) Page 7-15 all off/flat Page 16 String level 100 except G string which I turned down to 30 as it was louder than the others. ---- FX COMP ON - Limiter TRSH - 60 Ratio - 4:1 Attack - 0 Rel - 20 Tone - 0 Level - 62 --- That's it! Tbh it'll differ from one bass to another depending on your pickup install (distance from strings, placement etc) and your playing style (filter sensitivity etc) but this shoudl get you mostly there. Let me know if a screenshot of the editor would help, or pictures of the screen of the unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 [quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1472194312' post='3119229'] A simple B flat on the one and three [/quote] I perfected the tone with the same on two and four! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoirBass Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 [quote name='ped' timestamp='1472203629' post='3119361'] Sure - I'll have to simply type the settings down as I haven't got the facility to do a system dump or whatever it's called using MIDI at this point Start off with the 'Chameleon' preset (I think it's patch 120 unless you've moved it) COSM bass settings page 1 COSM Bass - on. Type - Synth Synth Type - Analog GR Master level - 100 Page 2 Mode - VCO Comp - Off Page 3 Cutoff Freq - 58 (though I adjust this with the knob on the bass to change the sound, 58 matches the video) Reso - 77 (Env Mod) - ON Sens - 35 Attack - 25 Page 4 Off Page 5 (Sweep) ON Rise - 32 Fall - 24 (Vibrato) - Off Page 6 EQ - On (but flat, just total gain +10) Page 7-15 all off/flat Page 16 String level 100 except G string which I turned down to 30 as it was louder than the others. ---- FX COMP ON - Limiter TRSH - 60 Ratio - 4:1 Attack - 0 Rel - 20 Tone - 0 Level - 62 --- That's it! Tbh it'll differ from one bass to another depending on your pickup install (distance from strings, placement etc) and your playing style (filter sensitivity etc) but this shoudl get you mostly there. Let me know if a screenshot of the editor would help, or pictures of the screen of the unit. [/quote] Thanks for that I'll give it a go. Are you not using the VB editor with your computer? If not you should be as it's actually really good, and makes editing the unit a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 [quote name='NoirBass' timestamp='1472208932' post='3119438'] Thanks for that I'll give it a go. Are you not using the VB editor with your computer? If not you should be as it's actually really good, and makes editing the unit a breeze. [/quote] Yeah, but I much prefer using the unit. I think the interface is so nice to use with all the knobs and big screen. Any time spent away from the computer is good in my book! I have the unit on the stand just to the side of my desk, perfect height, it just works so nicely. I even use it as a sound card for music through my hifi and headphones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoirBass Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) [quote name='ped' timestamp='1472210622' post='3119451'] Yeah, but I much prefer using the unit. I think the interface is so nice to use with all the knobs and big screen. Any time spent away from the computer is good in my book! I have the unit on the stand just to the side of my desk, perfect height, it just works so nicely. I even use it as a sound card for music through my hifi and headphones [/quote] Fair play, you can make handy save files with the VB editor - I think they're.mid from memory. Makes for easy backup and patch sharing. Thanks again for taking the time to write the settings down for that patch, I'll give it a go when I get a minute. Edited August 26, 2016 by NoirBass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 [quote name='NoirBass' timestamp='1472217085' post='3119552'] Fair play, you can make handy save files with the VB editor - I think they're.mid from memory. Makes for easy backup and patch sharing. Thanks again for taking the time to write the settings down for that patch, I'll give it a go when I get a minute. [/quote] Ah I see, OK I'll have a look - probably a good idea to back up my settings, as you say. Let me know how you get on. I can send you my 'Stink Synth' patch, if you like - it makes full use of the 'dynamics' setting and blends in some clean bass, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoirBass Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) Just had a quick go, great fun. Its been a while since I dug my VB-99 out and played with it - I'd forgotten how cool it is! I've made a save file of your patch (although I've left all the String levels at 100%) for anyone who fancies a bash (change file extension to .zip): [attachment=226448:Landing Point.b9e.zip] Turns out they are .b9e files? must be a weird Roland format. Oh, and please do share patches Edited August 26, 2016 by NoirBass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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