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Im after bit of advice, I have a lovely OLP 5 string bass that is passive. Now the pickup is original and completely coated in wax, it has one volume and one tone pot.[/font][/color][color=#1D2129][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]

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Im after making the bass active, I have a few 9V connectors hanging about, but I was wondering, do I NEED a preamp to make my bass active? Or can I just solder a 9V connector and battery somewhere to make the thing active?[/font][/color][color=#1D2129][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]

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The term "active" can refer to one of two things;

The first use refers to an active pre-amp - typically (although not always) this is a tone control circuit that allows the levels of different frequencies to be raised as well as lowered and also to act as a buffer between the pickup and the outside world.

The second use refers to active pickups, these differ from passive pickups in that they incorporate a built in pre-amp of their own. Pickups are essenially coils of wire running side by side - to achieve a decent signal level requires quite a few coils of wire but coils create inductance and wires running side by side create capacitance, this in turn creates a "band pass filter" which attenuates high and low frequencies. To get around this, active pickups use less turns of wire but require their own pre-amp to bring the signal level up to a useful level (I hope that all makes sense).

So, if you want an active bass you will need to either switch your pickups to active pickups, install a preamp or both.

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The term "active" can refer to one of two things;

The first use refers to an active pre-amp - typically (although not always) this is a tone control circuit that allows the levels of different frequencies to be raised as well as lowered and also to act as a buffer between the pickup and the outside world.

The second use refers to active pickups, these differ from passive pickups in that they incorporate a built in pre-amp of their own. Pickups are essenially coils of wire running side by side - to achieve a decent signal level requires quite a few coils of wire but coils create inductance and wires running side by side create capacitance, this in turn creates a "band pass" filter which drops high and low frequencies. To get around this, active pickups use less turns of wire but require their own pre-amp to bring the signal level up to a useful level (I hope that all makes sense).

So, if you want an active bass you will need to either switch your pickups to active pickups, install a preamp or both.
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So there is no way of me soldering a 9V connector to the pickup/pot to create an active circuit/pickup?

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To switch to an active pickup would need something like this:

http://www.emgpickups.com/bass/mm-models.html

These include the pickups, the pots (you need different values for active pickups) and a TRS jack socket to act as a switch to switch everthing on when you plug your lead into it. The tone control included with this is a fairly simple one that lets you roll off the higher frequncies in the same way that your current one does - if you want to have more control over your tone you would also need to add an active eq to it.

I should add that the "Hz" range of EMG pickups at the bottom of the page are actually passive and not active.

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[quote name='darkandrew' timestamp='1472421088' post='3121057']
To switch to an active pickup would need something like this:

[url="http://www.emgpickups.com/bass/mm-models.html"]http://www.emgpickup.../mm-models.html[/url]

These include the pickups, the pots (you need different values for active pickups) and a TRS jack socket to act as a switch to switch everthing on when you plug your lead into it. The tone control included with this is a fairly simple one that lets you roll off the higher frequncies in the same way that your current one does - if you want to have more control over your tone you would also need to add an active eq to it.

I should add that the "Hz" range of EMG pickups at the bottom of the page are actually passive and not active.
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Not got that type of money lol, thats why i was looking for a cheap alternative because its only a back up bass that cost about £120

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Cheap alternative is a Behringer BDI21 , saves you messing about with the bass and gives you a DI solution too.

It is possible to fit an Artec preamp, these are cheap, around 10 quid second hand. This will need a rout for the battery box. Search for a thread in the forum called "pimp mah olp" it will tell you what to do.

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[quote name='darkandrew' timestamp='1472421088' post='3121057']
To switch to an active pickup would need something like this:

[url="http://www.emgpickups.com/bass/mm-models.html"]http://www.emgpickup.../mm-models.html[/url]

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These won't work for OLP, the string spacing is narrower than a MusicMan and I think the case is also smaller. Nordstrand make a great olp replacement but it is passive.

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[quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1472466431' post='3121244']
Cheap alternative is a Behringer BDI21 , saves you messing about with the bass and gives you a DI solution too.

It is possible to fit an Artec preamp, these are cheap, around 10 quid second hand. This will need a rout for the battery box. Search for a thread in the forum called "pimp mah olp" it will tell you what to do.
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Good solution if you don't want to mess around inside the bass.
Artec pre-amps are great value for money but the pots are pretty crappy and tend to get really scratchy really quickly.
If it were me I would fit a Stinger pre-amp from Retrovibe. These are clones of the original and much revered Musicman 2 band eq. Cracking bit of kit.

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