uncle psychosis Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 [quote name='Beedster' timestamp='1473113948' post='3127146'] But you're not, without an explicit agreement you cannot be held responsible in this situation. I'm sure it's 100% the owner's responsibility to ensure the security of their property, not their paying customers (correct me if I'm wrong legal folks)? [/quote] All fine, except if one day something goes missing and the court of public opinion finds you guilty. I can already see the Facebook posts asking the owner to "name and shame" the band who were the last ones in when the '59 Les Paul disappeared. Even if he doesn't name you publicly you can bet it'll happen privately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solo4652 Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 Just back from rehearsal. I had a quiet word with the owner and said that I wasn't happy taking responsibility for securing his property. If other people were happy to do so, then that's up to them, but not me. "OK", he said, "I'll just have to get somebody else to lock up". "Fine by me", I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Err...which piano stool exactly is the money left in...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 [quote name='markstuk' timestamp='1473093534' post='3126867'] This is pretty common here in the Warwick/Leamington area... Been locking up for years without any issues [/quote] Same with me, I've done this loads of times. Always made sense to me because otherwise the poor key holder would be sitting around for hours listening to bands rehearsing and, as I'm sure we all know, that's a very dull thing indeed 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1473104512' post='3127005'] This used to happen at a place in Brighton. We were never accused of theft but one time the guy asked 'er ... did you move the piano ... someone moved the piano ... was it you?'. It wasn't us. Another time we arrived and all was locked up and no one there. We phoned the guy and he sent a taxi with the keys to let ourselves in, He turned up an hour later. Then there was the time the ceiling fell on the drummer. [/quote] Where was that? As I've rehearsed at most of the places in Brighton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyquipment Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 [quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1473118246' post='3127178'] Err...which piano stool exactly is the money left in...? [/quote] What piano stool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppet Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 What's to stop me making up a fictitious band after seeing this thread and nicking the gear and the money? Does he only do it with people/bands he trusts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassjim Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 wouldn't have a problem with it. Ive used rooms where you put the money and the keys in a postbox on the way out. In both cases band and owner on good friendly terms. As in " trust each other" Sure they knew we always went a bit over the agreed end time but like wise accepted this would probably happen. If however we took the piss and we had stayed for several hours over making a nusiance they probably would have found out and thats the end of a special arrangement. Nothing ever went missing or got damaged because we were never that sort of band and they were never that sort of character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 [quote name='tonyquipment' timestamp='1473164050' post='3127525'] What piano stool? [/quote] Post #8 'Also, bands leave their money in the piano stool since the owner leaves before the bands have finished.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lw. Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 It's fine; I've been in a few studios where they've asked the same - depends what kind of band you are & how you get on with the owners but I'm happy to lock the door behind me & post the key through the door in exchange for staying as long as I want. I wouldn't look at lifts though or guarantee any of the equipement. Looking at it from the other side; it's 11 at night & you want to go & have a few beers with your mates but you're stuck in a tiny office listening to the muffled sound of a band whose music you don't know coming through the walls. If you know them & know musicians generally don't steal from each other why not leave them with the keys? One of the spaces I currently use has no one there - all the doors are on push-button coded locks & the owner just texts you the code for that day then you post the cash into a little box at the end, all on trust. Does anyone steal the equipement (which would be easy)? No, of course they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 I'm associated with Riff Factory rehearsal studios in Stoke. The idea of leaving all that expensive gear in there unattended, and asking a customer to take responsibility for locking up is just scary! I'm sure the insurance would never cover it if anything happened, and I can imagine so may bad situations potentially arising from this. So, Riff Factory is always staffed when bands are in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles'tone Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 [quote name='ped' timestamp='1473090797' post='3126813'] See you there at 11 [/quote] I'll bring the tequila \m/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 [quote name='Graham' timestamp='1473143814' post='3127239'] Where was that? As I've rehearsed at most of the places in Brighton. [/quote] I can't remember what it was called but in an industrial block just off New England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomE Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Seems like a trusting gesture. Gives you the opportunity to take your time. Would like to think that the owner won't get ripped off by some unscrupulous folks. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerJackLee Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) [quote name='TimR' timestamp='1473090832' post='3126815']...it's his problem as far as the insurers will be concerned...[/quote] If there is any... Is this customary with other bands, too...? Could they make a wax impression of the key and sell it to crooks? Edited December 7, 2016 by CrackerJackLee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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