Kevin Dean Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Just a couple of questions How many watts would you get from a 12ohm cab run from a 1000w 4ohm amp ? and could you run safely a 8ohm & 12ohm cab together from a 1000w 4ohm amp ? I'm thinking of having two cabs for two different type bands but able to use them together for large gigs or maybe the two cabs wouldn't work to well together . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) I would estimate that you'd get around 300W running that amp at 12 ohms (but these things tend not to be linear relationships, so maybe check with the manufacturer). The two BF cabs will definitely "work" together, but how well and how efficiently they work is questionable. The 8 ohm Super Compact will get more power because it has a lower impedance. But it also only has one 12" speaker. The 210 will get less power, and it will be shared between the two speakers - so each ten inch speaker will be barely ticking over while the twelve might be getting pushed quite hard... I'm sure they'll be up to it, but you might get some "interesting" sounds... Give it a try! I'm sure Alex will be along soon to advise you more knowledgably... Edited September 16, 2016 by Conan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 A friend of mine has a 1 x12 & 2 x10 Tc rig & it's the best live sound I've heard , but there's me only wanting to buy UK made stuff . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 [quote name='Kevin Dean' timestamp='1474017462' post='3134902'] A friend of mine has a 1 x12 & 2 x10 Tc rig & it's the best live sound I've heard , but there's me only wanting to buy UK made stuff . [/quote] I think they're both 8 ohm cabs aren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 An 8 ohm cab and 12 ohm cab will look like 4.8 ohms to the amp, so there is no problem there. The 8 ohm cab will get something like half the power and the 12 ohm cab will see less than that, maybe about 1/3rd, so at 500watts (are you really going to run the amp at full power?) the 112 will get 250 watts and the 210 will get less than 200 watts. I'd be surprised if you run your amp even that loud (I can't even get my TH500 to half way on the volumes with my SC cabs) so whatever you put into those 2 cabs they'll be well within their tolerance levels. Nothing in this signal chain will be stressed at all. If I wanted to add more to my SC I'd be looking at adding a Super Midget but the 210 is an interesting option. My Berg 112 and 210 rig sounded fantastic so mixing 12's and 10's can sound good. For accurate descriptions of the combined sound of various BF cabs I'd email Alex and start a discussion with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Plus the TC cabs will be voiced completely differently from the BF cabs, the SC is designed as a more transparent cab (as far as is possible from a single driver!) but the Two10 is meant to have that more vintage vibe. I can't see the two working well together TBH but am happy to be proved wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 From what I have seen the 2 x10" would suit the rock stuff I do , jam/ stranglers / yes type sounds , & the Super compact for cleaner, sounds . so would mostly treated as two separate rigs . I do have 2 super compacts & have gigged with both once , the ABM1000 was only on about 20% & it was deafening ,far too loud . & my idea of plonking the 2 x10 on top of the 12" for larger stages might help with clarity / projection of top end . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Nah, the Two10 has a sweeter and more mellowed top end than the SCs (in my experience) - I wouldn't be looking to use one for more top end than the SC can produce. You'd be better off with a Super Midget I think. Plus it's a known combination which works The Two10 is a bloody good cab but not sure it'll do what you're after Edited September 16, 2016 by Merton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Agree, I`ve jut got the 210 & 410 and am having to push the treble much more on my amp, the drive/gain/breakup is also a lot smoother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 Thanks for every ones comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1474020343' post='3134965'] The 8 ohm cab will get something like half the power and the 12 ohm cab will see less than that, maybe about 1/3rd, [/quote] Surely that's a third and two thirds? Otherwise, what happens to the other sixth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 If 8 ohm is half of a 4 ohm load and 12 ohm is less than that where is the percentage split between the two cabs? I know the cabs are well within their limits but as to the actual numbers? Dunno! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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