la bam Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Hi all, We are just in the process of doing a cover of killer by seal / adamski and I'm wondering if anyone knows of an effect or type of effect that can create the really full sound created for the bassline? It's quite a difficult sound to describe but it seems very full with some kind of reverb on? Any help appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I just listened to it on youtube and "full" is not a word I'd use to describe it! Almost no bass to it! So I would make sure you're playing in the right octave, get a really fast envelope follower type sound and add a bit of dirt. Either that or a cheap old casio keyboard should be able to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Ah, capturing synth sounds... always a challenge. Simplest get by? Palm muted with fast envelope as stated above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bam Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 Thanks. I guess what i meant is that if that bassline (and effect) isnt played, or is played just as a bass guitar sound the song sounds emptyish. I'll try that fast envelope effect - is there any kind of decent envelope effect pedal that you would recommend (or multi effects)? I can wind up the valve drive on my ashdown abm for the dirt hopefully. Had to laugh - ive just returned to bass playing after 3 years off and promised myself id use a straight forward set up - 1 song in and im already looking at effects! Thanks for the help so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I have a couple of envelope followers (Q-Tron, BassBalls, Digitech BSW, Boss AW-2) but I don't think any of them would do that sound very well, sorry. Hopefully someone with more squelching experience can recommend one I think you'll need more dirt than the ABM will give you so maybe a multi-effect is the way to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Haven't heard the song but after reading the comments from other users i believe that an EHX Microsynth will do it. It has envelope with speed tailoring, drive and even octave. I also remember seeing one for sale over here very recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefrash Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 To my ears there is two distinct bass notes. A solid hard bass than a layered squelchy thing with each note matched with a thudding kick drum. I just got my pedal board on the go and beleive it or not my zoom ms60b has a synth in it called zsyn which gets very close! Tone on the bass down, and around 70/30 dry/wet blend gets very close. I'll try get something similar with just a filter and dirt but I think a cheesy synth pedal will always get you closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bam Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 thats great, cheers! ive just bought a second hand ehx microsynth so i'll see how that goes when i get it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 [quote name='la bam' timestamp='1475186701' post='3143953'] thats great, cheers! ive just bought a second hand ehx microsynth so i'll see how that goes when i get it too. [/quote] Nice move. I sold my (big box) one and could really use it in my current band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bam Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 Cheers all. I think I've got this pretty much there now using the micro synth and zoom b3. Taking to practice tonight to for it around the drums, then should sound great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bam Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 Nailed it! The micro synth did a great job, the trick then was to add some low gain distortion and some ambience from the zoom b3 which gave it that nice kick pad sound. I put it through the Ashdown rig on their own pre shape eq, and it sounded pretty much spot on with the rest of the band. Thanks for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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