JapanAxe Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I nominate the Line 6 Spider 30 - an indescribably hideous aural caricature of a guitar amp! Bring it on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheth Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I was just about to nominate that or the Marshall MG for the worst amplifier I've ever heard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 [quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1475407426' post='3145655'] I nominate the Line 6 Spider 30 - an indescribably hideous aural caricature of a guitar amp! Bring it on... [/quote] Yes +1 My guitarist in my old band had one of those. It sounded like a wasp buzzing around in a tin can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markstuk Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Marshall MG with a Line 6 POD in front of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Anything Marshall that hasn't been modded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1475432483' post='3145875'] Anything Marshall that hasn't been modded. [/quote] I used to be quite fond of my brother's 70s JMP Master Volume combo, unmodded. That sounded good. I'd agree with all the mentions of the MG series though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Vox AC30. Been in a couple of bands with guitarists that used them. Always sounds completely pants until it reaches a volume where everything else is drowned out including the drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danuman Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 I seem to be most disappointed when I find out I'm playing through a Randall amp, but I imagine some other people have found 'their' sound in one. Maybe I only played duds. Luckily, I usually find something to like in most amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 The Line 6 comment was a bit harsh! I've got a Spider IV 75w...while I honestly couldn't care less about the bulk of the presets (which I guess is what it's sold for), it is pretty simple to dial up a decent tone. OK yeah, for sure I'll admit it's probably not the hardy amp you'd want to take out on a mahoosive tour, but for general use, recording and so forth, it's tiptop. I've used it on everything I've recorded in the last three or four years. New these are currently less than 200 notes, second-hand half that. What's to complain about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassnut62 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 A horrible small combo by Trace Elliott with a vertical slit for a baffle board. V weird and truly awful sounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftybassman392 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I'm seeing a bit of context here: you expect a small, cheap amp to sound a bit crappy and an expensive one to sound good (subjective considerations aside of course). In that context the biggest disappointment for me was a (very pricey) Fender Vibroverb reissue I had some years ago. No matter what I did I couldn't get a decent sound out of it - actually thinking about it I can't quite recall why I bought it in the first place. This opinion may be coloured somewhat by it's horrendous reliability record - 3 major failures (and two new power supplies) in as many months. When it went pop for the third time I told the shop to keep it and took home a S/H Mesa Boogie Studio .22 instead. Much more like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul h Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I remember the old Marshall Valvestate gear sounding pretty terrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randythoades Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) I quite like the old Marshall Valvestate! Wouldn't buy another though to be fair... I think it depends hugely on the player. Not bigging myself up here, but the previous guitarist in our band had both a SS Fender Ultimate Chorus and valve JCM Marshall DSL 2x12 and played a custom shop strat. Amps so far polarised to each other as you could hope to find. They both sounded complete pants in his hands. I borrowed his Marshall for an impromptu heavy rock session (Sabbath, Purple, Rainbow, Quo, Motorhead, Ozzy etc) as I have an AC15. I played my homebuilt Esquire through it and it sounded immense. Although have also borrowed of the Two Rock amps which everyone seems to rave about and couldn't get a good sound out of it and plugged in my backup amp (a SS Fender Frontman) and was so much happier! Edited October 10, 2016 by randythoades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasMooseblaster Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 [quote name='NancyJohnson' timestamp='1475584158' post='3147079'] The Line 6 comment was a bit harsh! I've got a Spider IV 75w...while I honestly couldn't care less about the bulk of the presets (which I guess is what it's sold for), it is pretty simple to dial up a decent tone. OK yeah, for sure I'll admit it's probably not the hardy amp you'd want to take out on a mahoosive tour, but for general use, recording and so forth, it's tiptop. I've used it on everything I've recorded in the last three or four years. New these are currently less than 200 notes, second-hand half that. What's to complain about? [/quote] The biggest problems I've found are the basic clean tone (not to my taste, not necessarily their fault of course!) and, more importantly, they seem to be really unresponsive to dynamics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Vader Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Marshall JCM 800. Although that was probably because I didn't understand it properly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethFlatlands Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 [quote name='paul h' timestamp='1476089265' post='3151038'] I remember the old Marshall Valvestate gear sounding pretty terrible. [/quote] I used to own one of the original Valvestates and used to get complements on my clean tone fairly regularly. Same generation VS15R's are supposed to be very well thought of for high gain home recording to the extent there's 4 on Ebay ranging from £60 to £195 which isn't bad considering I paid a little over £100 for mine brand new back in about 1998. The next generation had a load of built in effects and I thought they were awful though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danuman Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I used to gig a valvestate head, and as long as you relied on a good drive pedal to provide the dirt, it sounded pretty nice. I've also played the 212 combos quite often, they might get a bit thin on loud volumes, but perfectly serviceable. In my experience, the trick is not to push them, but I suppose that holds up for most transistor-based amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 [quote name='leftybassman392' timestamp='1476049299' post='3150892'] I'm seeing a bit of context here: you expect a small, cheap amp to sound a bit crappy and an expensive one to sound good (subjective considerations aside of course). In that context the biggest disappointment for me was a (very pricey) Fender Vibroverb reissue I had some years ago. No matter what I did I couldn't get a decent sound out of it - actually thinking about it I can't quite recall why I bought it in the first place. This opinion may be coloured somewhat by it's horrendous reliability record - 3 major failures (and two new power supplies) in as many months. When it went pop for the third time I told the shop to keep it and took home a S/H Mesa Boogie Studio .22 instead. Much more like it! [/quote] The Vibroverb reissue is a pretty terrible amp as are most, if not all, of the Fender reissue valve amps in my opinion. Crappy, unreliable PCB construction being sold for hand built point-to-point prices. I tried a load of them last year when I was looking for a decent valve combo & I thought they were all rubbish. Funnily enough some of their cheaper amps, especially the Mustang 3 combo, are really good little amps. I'd have one of those over a reissue 65 Deluxe Reverb or Princeton any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 [quote name='Bassnut62' timestamp='1476042024' post='3150786'] A horrible small combo by Trace Elliott with a vertical slit for a baffle board. V weird and truly awful sounding. [/quote] That was a bass amp, the BLX80 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danuman Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Haha, you're right! We had one of those at my secondary school. Absolute pants. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul h Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Well the guitarist in my old band made his Valvestate sound pretty terrible I guess I must have just had a bad experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I had a Laney Linebacker once. Never again, dreadful sounding crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 The guitarist in one of our support bands turned up with a beautiful Les Paul, a Marshall 4x12, and a 6U rack case containing Marshall pre- and power-amps and a whole bunch of flashing lights. He'd basically spent the GDP of a small country to get absolutely the worst guitar sound I have [i]ever[/i] heard. I mean, hilariously dreadful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftybassman392 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) [quote name='Rich' timestamp='1476272732' post='3152865'] The guitarist in one of our support bands turned up with a beautiful Les Paul, a Marshall 4x12, and a 6U rack case containing Marshall pre- and power-amps and a whole bunch of flashing lights. He'd basically spent the GDP of a small country to get absolutely the worst guitar sound I have [i]ever[/i] heard. I mean, hilariously dreadful. [/quote] I had an amp setup like that once (think I had 212 x 2 from memory): the monoblocks (I assume that's what they were) were fine, but the real trick (IMHO of course) was to work out where the good sounds were on the preamp (which I'd guess was a JMP-1) - there were some good ones in there; you just had to spend time finding them is all. Old school 'It's a Marshall so turn everything up to 11' guitarists definitely wouldn't have liked it... Edited October 12, 2016 by leftybassman392 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassnut62 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 [quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1476130587' post='3151662'] That was a bass amp, the BLX80 I think. [/quote] It could well have been, cos it sounded terrible for guitar; but it was owned by a guitarist I played with and I hated the sound of his guitar though it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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