ARGH Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Yummy innit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spector6 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Very nice, the shape of the body and some of the features remind me of Claypool's rainbow bass by Carl Thompson, any sound clips of this bad boy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGH Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 (edited) I dont know who commissioned it,I saw it being sprayed,its...bar some hardware,all made in house. Please note the hand made 6 string P style P/U. Edited October 9, 2008 by ARGH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7string Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 [quote name='spector6' post='303203' date='Oct 9 2008, 05:47 PM']Very nice, the shape of the body and some of the features remind me of Claypool's rainbow bass by Carl Thompson.[/quote] That was the first thing I thought as well It's a striking instrument. [b]ARGH[/b] - have you got (or can you get) any more info on the spec ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGH Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Trying too.......Jim and me are BIG Thompson fans (check out the bridge). I know its the closest Jim has gone ,in regards to doing a plain Maple-esque Bass (ala Fender). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Definitely deep into 'phwoarr' territory, that. Me likey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedontcarebear Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Very Carl Thompson-like, looks alright! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGH Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Dare I say it ...wooden knobs?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7string Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I have wooden knobs on my Jackson bass. Great product and equally great service from Roger at THG [url="http://www.thgknobs.com"]www.thgknobs.com[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 [quote name='ARGH' post='303193' date='Oct 9 2008, 05:39 PM']Yummy innit![/quote]Couple of things, the tuners look to be too close to the sides of the headstock and too small, I would imagine tuning to be awkward and there seems to be little or no contouring on the body. One more, would intonation be a bit of a hit and miss affair with the saddle arrangement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGH Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 [quote name='steve-soar' post='304423' date='Oct 11 2008, 03:28 PM']Couple of things, the tuners look to be too close to the sides of the headstock and too small, I would imagine tuning to be awkward and there seems to be little or no contouring on the body. One more, would intonation be a bit of a hit and miss affair with the saddle arrangement?[/quote] Seeing as its fretless?...The saddle arrangment isnt a problem. The tuners are due to the photos perspective..they are clear an as easy to use,as are ALL of Jim creations. The customer wanted the 'feel' of a classic bodied bass..50s style ..so Jim went slabish..at the customers request .The Bass is the closest Jim comes to a simple Mahogany/Maple wooded instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 With Steve on the bridge thing - they look nice but don't offer much else! The bass itself is a bit too 'much' for me, but the craftsmanship certainly looks top notch, got ant bigger piccies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGH Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 WHY would you need saddle arrangement on a fretless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 For the same reason you do on a fretted - it still has to be in tune. AFAIK anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGH Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 Of course its in tune...you use your left hand and ears to judge your playing. Isnt the idea of fretless to be alike in attributes of both the upright with the Electric Bass? You dont see cellists,Violinists,Uprights etc asking for individual string saddles upon their instruments? That would be absurd,an adjustable bridge for fretted..yes its needed,but on fretless?? Set it to the 12thfret harmonic to correspond with the fretted note..and the rest is for your ears to do. I thought you would know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Looks like a bug splat to me Not my cup of tea but its 'original'!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 [quote name='ARGH' post='305970' date='Oct 14 2008, 08:14 AM']Of course its in tune...you use your left hand and ears to judge your playing. Isnt the idea of fretless to be alike in attributes of both the upright with the Electric Bass? You dont see cellists,Violinists,Uprights etc asking for individual string saddles upon their instruments? That would be absurd,an adjustable bridge for fretted..yes its needed,but on fretless?? Set it to the 12thfret harmonic to correspond with the fretted note..and the rest is for your ears to do. I thought you would know that.[/quote] Why is it a lined fretless then? Whats the point in having visual markers for intonation when that intonation cannot be set properly!? I would understand the thinking behind it if it was an unmarked board! Not having a go, just saying Anyway, interesting shape, quality workmanship! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 How would one alter the action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Put it next to a radiator? :brow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 [quote name='Sibob' post='306077' date='Oct 14 2008, 11:04 AM']Why is it a lined fretless then? Whats the point in having visual markers for intonation when that intonation cannot be set properly!?[/quote] My point exactly. Sure you can adjust and play by ear and compensate for wrong intonation but I have an unlined fretless which I have intonated(?) properly, making it more precise. Lord knows it doesn't need complicating further if I have to cope with varying intonation on each string relative to the next - OK I am talking minuscule amounts but still... This and the fact that this is a lined fretless means I would have an adjustable bridge. Cheers ped P.s not having a go either - these bridges seem popular with lots of small volume luthiers I have noticed of late. I am sure they have their reasons for them as I have mine against, so it's all good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGH Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 The answer is tone,regarding bridge choice.....I asked Jim and his reply was "Its what he (The Customer) wanted" Lets not get into the idiotic discussion of the level I had on sevenstring.org a year ago...re: wooden bridges,they play in tune are easy to live with and work perfectly well. So you have a perfectly intonated fretless Ped?? Is that possible? Seeing as the fretting hand IS the intonation...thus bringing into question a players technique..I highly doubt your claim to be true,which then brings the question of what is perfect intonation,the answer being practically an impossibility in the western scale of a fretted neck and in the fretless players case the ears and hands. The 'lines' are guides..but as you know one little movement..the rolling of the fingertip and all the setting up and intonating in the world aint gonna help you out there..if we were really hardcore we wouldnt have dots on the side either (ala Jeff Ament) would we? On the question on adjusting the action upon the instrument? WHY?? WTF would you want to adjust the action after purchase?..you try it out when Jim finishes it,and if you dont like it its changed in the shop there and then,if you get a shift a week or two later,or its not to your taste then its easy enough to do,via a qualified Luthier...I dont know anyone on here that radically changes string guages week in week out,nor travels vast distances between timezones and climates,and if you were to get a big neck shift its why Trussrods are in existance...Of course any changes upon a Jim Fleeting are subject to a free setup at a 6 month interval (might be 12 months as well email Jim for information). If you can afford to change strings every week,and need diffent guages upon one instrument,I have the feeling you might be in enough money to own more than one instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I think you're taking this a bit too personally ARGH We're simply discussing the pro's and con's of that style bridge! I myself like the freedom of a fully adjustable bridge so that I don't have to go back to a luthier every time I wish to tweak it! And the amount that I'm out playing, and the punishment my basses go through as a result, they need tweaking every now and then! Clearly this customer is happy to have that bridge, and we are happy for him/her! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBeefChief Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 On the subject of wooden bridges, I quite like the idea. Kinda low-tech, but if it works, it works. I agree with ARGH's point about adjusting string height. I've had my bass set up once and that is how it will stay. If I got it back from the luthier after a set-up and the action wasn't right, I'd get him (or her) to re-do it. It's difficult to comment on these things without playing it though, so I may be talking out of my arse.* *but if I am, so are most of you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 With Sibob again. I don't think my post could have been less confrontational if I tried, so I don't know why you are getting so pent up! With regards to the intonation on my fretless if I capo the 12th fret the strings are all intonated properly, and I suspect with a wooden bridge this would be more difficult. Weather this is noticeable to a player/listener was not my argument. On the point about the action, all I can say is things change - string choice, setup preference and so on. A fully adjustable bridge is simply more easily adjusted and doesn't require a luthier to use, However like tBBC I haven't touched my action for many years, but then again the neck is stable and doesn't even have a truss rod! Like I said - just some thoughts. I like the look of them too and I am sure they sound great and play very well if setup to your tastes. ped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBeefChief Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Stop causing trouble ped. Why do you have to bait people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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