interpol52 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 When I was 18 I knew the basslines on this album inside out, I loved it. I got the Return of The Space Cowboy album and really didn't like it so I went off them a bit. 20 odd years on and I listened to this today while I was doing some decorating, I appreciated it in a far different way than I used to. Before I just loved the basslines, now I see the brilliance in Stuart Zender even more as a part of the whole piece of work. I hear some of the influences I missed first time round, some Jaco there in the bass and also some James Brown in the vocals aside from the obvious Stevie Wonder. So now I need a Warwick. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjp1vPLkBBQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytoad Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Ah yes, I was there too! My perspective was that Stu just grew and grew through the albums, offering something different each time. Just as you nailed a few of his lines, he comes out with more! I loved all of the SZ albums, I think they began to loose something that made them special as people were replaced. So although the later albums still offer a taste, they are not for me... Not really listened to SZ since, although I follow him on Facebook, which now I think about it, is a little weird!!😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Wasn't this album recorded on a Stingray? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytoad Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 P.s My most favourite baseline (that I played to) was probably travelling without moving, although there is too many to choose from! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) I remember when this album came out. some really great records. I like his playing because it's so for the record and always interesting. In some cases his playing made the record better. Edited October 27, 2016 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interpol52 Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 [quote name='Graham' timestamp='1477596234' post='3163294'] Wasn't this album recorded on a Stingray? [/quote] Great, now I want a Stingray again just to make sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I was listening to this the other day -has to be one of the outstanding bass albums of the 90s. Personally I think Jamiroquai lost it over time as they stopped being a band where everyone contributed and slowly morphed into JK's personal ego trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 [quote name='Graham' timestamp='1477596234' post='3163294'] Wasn't this album recorded on a Stingray? [/quote]Doesn't sound like a stingray to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) For me there finest record. Bass playing from Mr X. which I believe is Ernie Mckowne from various later Incognito fame. It's just fantastic playing. http://youtu.be/y9DHDTu0jT0 Edited October 27, 2016 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 [quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1477598075' post='3163308'] Doesn't sound like a stingray to me [/quote] I might have made that up, thought I read it somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Pink Stingray 5 I've heard was the way he got that killer Warwick tone too, not all but some of his recordings and live too apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Both times I saw them live in the early 90s he was swapping between 4 & 5 string Warwicks & I seem to recall a precision on a couple of tracks. No idea what he used on the records though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassie Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Love their early stuff. Space Cowboy is my favourite, Mr Zender is so inventive on that record. New album imminent apparently. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Firefly Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Im led to believe Andrew Levy and his old 70's Jazz played on very early Jamiroquai stuff too, according to an old interview with him in Bassist magazine....Zender had a Streamer, didnt he ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 First became aware of him when they turned up on Later and he was using his Streamer 5 with the native American paint job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I was just listening to this the other day. Doesn't sound like a Stingray at all to me. Superb playing though, whatever it was on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Paul Turner puts Stingrays to good effect covering the old stuff afaik? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) Is it just me. Or does Paul Turner lack a bit of soul in his bass playing. It's almost like he's been to music school, but never really had that something. Edited October 28, 2016 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesparky Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 [quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1477598352' post='3163315'] For me there finest record. Bass playing from Mr X. which I believe is Ernie Mckowne from various later Incognito fame. It's just fantastic playing. http://youtu.be/y9DHDTu0jT0 [/quote] Mystery solved - I'd often wondered who it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I'm with you bubinga5...... Turner reminds of a sort of Juian Clary dullard in a lot of ways. I love some of the bass on Rock Dust Light Star mind....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsfreddy2003 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 It was definitely a Warwck Streamer on EOPE and he used a Boss multi fx board to get that awesome envelope filter and synth bass type sounds. This is one of my all time favourite albums, I remember seeing them on The Word on Friday night and buying the cassette from Our Price the very next day - I still love it as much today as I did then and it set me on a journey to discover jazz/funk that I am still on now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianrendall Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I think I read an interview in an old Bassist magazine that an Alembic was used on a few tracks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) Back then was a Warwick Streamer Stage 1 four string, Stage 2 fiver (the Jamiroquai bass with the blanket paint job), Stage 2 fretless (can't remember if it's on the records), Stage 1 eight string (ditto), and Alembic Essence 4. Seen him using a P back then once too. Used 35-95 strings back in the day according to interview, same as I used to use. There were a couple of other Warwicks too towards the end IIRC, possibly one chrome five and one white five? Edited November 8, 2016 by 4000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsfreddy2003 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 No, I had a Streamer Stage 2 and it was a 4 string but had ying yang fret markers amongst other things so suggest it was just a slightly different model. I loved that bass until some bastard smashed a window and nicked it out of my car! 35 - 95 is really light gauge strings! Z[quote name='4000' timestamp='1478630333' post='3170477'] Back then was a Warwick Streamer Stage 1 four string, Stage 2 fiver (the Jamiroquai bass with the blanket paint job), Stage 2 fretless (can't remember if it's on the records), Stage 1 eight string (ditto), and Alembic Essence 4. Seen him using a P back then once too. Used 35-95 strings back in the day according to interview, same as I used to use. There were a couple of other Warwicks too towards the end IIRC, possibly one chrome five and one white five? [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 His original was a Stage 1 four string, no markers. His famous five (see what I did there) was a Stage 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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