drums1977 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Hi guys, I am considering purchasing a 200W "English Style" tube head. I had a SVT VR but sold it because of the weight, just too much, and also far too much power for my needs. I am looking at the options for 200W, but I naturally gravitate towards the weber Mywatt because of the weight, only 22 kg (like a Ampeg V4b, wch is only a 100W head), its price (1400 Eur new) and the fact that it is fully hand made in the EU. I have checked the "original" Hywatt DR201 and the Reeves 225, but the price is wild and the weight difference is huge. On forums, everyone swears for them all, but I wonder what the real tone differences are. The Reeves sounds insane on their web samples, and apparently the Mywatt and the Hywatt sound identical. The Mywatt offers updates features like the individual tube bias adjustment or speakon connector, but there is very little information or samples online. Also, when people samples this kind of amp, they tend to focus on heavily overdriven tones. I like a natural, organic grunt when I dig in the strings, but I also appreciate a warm rich clean tone. I was wondering if anyone has experience with this amplifiers, thanks a lot!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow_22 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Traynor YBA200? Even as a 200w all valve effort they use torodial transformers so keeps the weight down. Probably weights the same as a sleeved Ashdown ABM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Always laugh when I see somebody say "only 100 watts"... Speaking of Ashdown, what about a CTM100? 19kgs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 My Burman is 100 watts and is very loud and clean. I've only heard good things about the Mywatt and thought they had sound samples on their website. I'm sure a couple of members here have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillento Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 The Weber Mywatt is VERY well built! It is very clean sounding and has lots of high end. Apparently they are not 100% perfect clones of the DR201. (There are people claiming Hiwatt "leaked" wrong schematics in order to prevent clones. But it modding it seems easily doable. Have a read: http://www.stagedoc.lu/pimp-my-amp.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Beware of sound samples. How much processing have they gone through during the recording and mix. Also, how good is the system you listened to them on? Spending that sort of cash you have to hear it for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drums1977 Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 The good news is Weber offers a 2 week return period with full refund (except shipping of course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taunton-hobbit Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Matamp make a very good 200watt valve amp............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drums1977 Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 Believe it or not I am seriously considering a DB751!!! What do you guys think? Have I lost it? A friend (who used SVT heads for YEARS) says that he prefers the light OD grunt of the Aguilar to the SVTs??? Is that possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillento Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 The db751 is quite the opposite of the Hiwatt/Weber thing soundwise . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drums1977 Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 [quote name='gillento' timestamp='1481173898' post='3190210'] The db751 is quite the opposite of the Hiwatt/Weber thing soundwise . [/quote] True, but check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEDbBBJpWds Interesting, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillento Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) ok My Weber recommandation was based on you mentioning the Hiwatt/Reeves amps. My personal tube amps experineces are based on the few tube amps I had and played extensively: Ampeg V4BH, Weber 100 & 200, Sadowsky SA200. The difference in sound between the Weber 100 & 200 are minimal. The Ampeg is on the other side of the spectrum whereas the SA200 lies in between both "extremes" The db750 I had is more of a SA200 style sound with a more limited eq. My point is not all tube amps are sounding ampeggish or hiwattish. So, what's your flavour? Edited December 9, 2016 by gillento Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterimage Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I have a Traynor yba 200 which I really like. You just have tweak the eq a bit but lovely tones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drums1977 Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 After a lot of reading and listening to samples (unfortunately I can't try any of these locally) I think I will try the db751. I love the tone and eq of my tonehammer. I play regularly with a Svt vr and as much as it is great, I have never thought WOW. I did think that when I listened to my tonehammer for the first time. I didn't expect that tone from such a small head. If the 751 is better and louder than that,it might be 'my thing'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillento Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 [quote name='drums1977' timestamp='1481322635' post='3191590'] A... I play regularly with a Svt vr and as much as it is great, I have never thought WOW....... [/quote] my thoughts on Ampeg all tube heads as well! Since you are considering tube sounding hybrids as well, have a look at the Mesa Walkabout (NOT Subway). After playing lots of 500watts hybrids over the last decade (Ashdown ABM, Eden, Markbass TA503, ....) the Mesa is still the best sounding between all of these and its output is more than enough with a single 410, 212 or two 115. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Np hybrid will ever sound as good as a valve, simply because the sound is in the back end. If you want the sound you have to put the work in. Everything else is a compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJ Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) Have you also considered this option http://stonehamamps.co.uk/YI200-Bass-Head(3023626).htm ? Martin Stoneham is a new name in the guitar and bass amp world but he is gaining a reputation for very well made good sounding lightweight valve amps. I've tested the prototype of this head and it's everything I'd want in a valve amp. The advantage with Martin is that as it's all handmade point to point wired, if you want any tweaks to the design, he can accommodate. Edited December 10, 2016 by JPJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drums1977 Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 Those heads are a thing of beauty!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramatron Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Martin stoneham is a genuinely lovely guy! His unit isn't far from my home, a lot of guys from up here have been in to try his amps and with great reviews. I myself have an Orange AD200b. It's the happiest I have been with an amp. Use with an ebs neo 212. Sounds great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheth Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 [quote name='JPJ' timestamp='1481376217' post='3191842'] Have you also considered this option [url="http://stonehamamps.co.uk/YI200-Bass-Head(3023626"]http://stonehamamps....ss-Head(3023626[/url]).htm ? Martin Stoneham is a new name in the guitar and bass amp world but he is gaining a reputation for very well made good sounding lightweight valve amps. I've tested the prototype of this head and it's everything I'd want in a valve amp. The advantage with Martin is that as it's all handmade point to point wired, if you want any tweaks to the design, he can accommodate. [/quote] Martin has fixed tons of amps for me, I can agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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