Accurate James Jamerson tabs any help please

[thebigyin]

Hi Folks anyone got any accurate James Jamerson tabs please anything considered thanks in advance cheers Bob

[pete.young]

You need a copy of 'Standing in the Shadows of Motown'.

[dannybuoy]

A few of the Motown/Jamerson books out there are musical notation only, so check Amazon reviews first if it has to be tab!

[Grangur]

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1481314964' post='3191516']
A few of the Motown/Jamerson books out there are musical notation only, so check Amazon reviews first if it has to be tab!
[/quote]

Learn to read? It's easier than reading Tab when you get past the initial learning curve.

Try watching this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X7qgBVnMfY

[bluesparky]

[quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1481314139' post='3191512']
You need a copy of 'Standing in the Shadows of Motown'.
[/quote]
Beat me to it!
Fantastic book, however it is entirely in standard notation.

Edited December 9, 2016 by bluesparky

[thebigyin]

Thanks folks

[JamesBass]

For Jamerson you really need to read it through notation to get the best grasp of the feel. Tab can't give you that and it's so restrictive! The beauty of music, even when learning songs, is that you can improvise and create!

[kodiakblair]

Couple of books here Bob. Both have Tab and if after the what ? 30-40 year you've been playing now, pub gigs get closed to non readers
well the books also have the notation.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motown-Bass-Classics-Leonard-Corp/dp/0793588375

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motown-Signature-Licks-Guitar-Tab-Music/dp/0634015206

[dannybuoy]

Here we go again with the anti-tab brigade! Of course notation is more descriptive but there's a lot of extra layers to process. If someone just wants to learn a song then tab is the easiest way for many.

Regarding that video, everything he said regarding the way the brain can recognise patterns and shapes with standard notation applies equally to tab. It's just that he obviously hasn't spent long enough looking at tab for it to sink in that way. The brain can speed read information when it is presented in a form it is used to seeing.

When it comes to getting a feel for the music, I'd rather just grasp that by listening to the recording than try to hear it with my eyes.

[bazzbass]

I laugh when people claim reading notation is quicker than reading TABs

baloney, and here's why

reading notation: your brain sees the lil black dot, converts it to a note name, say B. THEN has to convert the note name B to a spot on your fretboard

TAB: you brain sees immediately that it's the 2nd fret on the 2nd string, you play it.

now tell me again how notation is faster

[lowdown]

[quote name='bazztard' timestamp='1481515032' post='3192821']
I laugh when people claim reading notation is quicker than reading TABs

baloney, and here's why

reading notation: your brain sees the lil black dot, converts it to a note name, say B. THEN has to convert the note name B to a spot on your fretboard

TAB: you brain sees immediately that it's the 2nd fret on the 2nd string, you play it.

now tell me again how notation is faster
[/quote]

Take your little theory to all the great Professional Orchestras of the World.
I am sure you are onto something.

Edited December 12, 2016 by lowdown

[DBerriff]

Because seing what note to to play is the easy bit, and you make an assumption about how sight reading "works".

[Geek99]

I read the frets off the tab and look to the dots for the rhythm - best of both worlds. Reading rhythm isn't hard and I don't see why there should be a binary choice

Edited December 12, 2016 by Geek99

[Dan Dare]

Here's a revolutionary idea for y'all. Consider reading notation as well as tab. Woooah, yes I know it's a bit out there, but it will save these tedious arguments about which is better/quicker/yada yada. They both have their uses and if you can do both, you're covered every time. Now, what was so difficult about that?

[Geek99]

[quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1481535696' post='3192937']
Here's a revolutionary idea for y'all. Consider reading notation as well as tab. Woooah, yes I know it's a bit out there, but it will save these tedious arguments about which is better/quicker/yada yada. They both have their uses and if you can do both, you're covered every time. Now, what was so difficult about that?
[/quote]
See previous post ?

[lowdown]

[quote name='Geek99' timestamp='1481533050' post='3192902']
Reading rhythm isn't hard and I don't see why there should be a binary choice
[/quote]

If you are reading Rhythms and finding it isn't hard, why not also read the black dots attached ?
Just curious really.

[Geek99]

Because I can get that from the tab, and because someone who undoubtedly a better player than me has already figured out a way to play it. I might change it, but it's a start

[JamesBass]

[quote name='kodiakblair' timestamp='1481491812' post='3192721']
Couple of books here Bob. Both have Tab and if after the what ? 30-40 year you've been playing now, pub gigs get closed to non readers
well the books also have the notation.

[url="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motown-Bass-Classics-Leonard-Corp/dp/0793588375"]https://www.amazon.c...p/dp/0793588375[/url]

[url="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motown-Signature-Licks-Guitar-Tab-Music/dp/0634015206"]https://www.amazon.c...c/dp/0634015206[/url]
[/quote]
He asked for accurate. Whilst tab may well give the correct notes, it won't communicate the rhythm, which, as a bass player in the motown genre, is essential for an accurate line.

[pfretrock]

[quote name='JamesBass' timestamp='1481545284' post='3193068']
He asked for accurate. Whilst tab may well give the correct notes, it won't communicate the rhythm, which, as a bass player in the motown genre, is essential for an accurate line.
[/quote]
The Leonard Motown Classics book is quite good. It has tab and dots. I can read the tab (failed guitar player) and read the rhythm from the dots (failed keyboard player). Don't think I'd be able to do any Jameson from dots alone - too old to learn stuff like that! Bit like learning a foreign language, it just does not register.
Tab you find on the internet, without dots, is just useless, best avoided.

[skej21]

I can't believe that TAB is still going when notation, MIDI and YouTube etc exists. So many better ways to learn to play something these days than TAB.

[JamesBass]

[quote name='pfretrock' timestamp='1481743125' post='3194818']
The Leonard Motown Classics book is quite good. It has tab and dots. I can read the tab (failed guitar player) and read the rhythm from the dots (failed keyboard player). Don't think I'd be able to do any Jameson from dots alone - too old to learn stuff like that! Bit like learning a foreign language, it just does not register.
Tab you find on the internet, without dots, is just useless, best avoided.
[/quote]
I agree a combination for most, is the best/most effective way. Internet TAB only is notoriously woeful. Especially when lots of them can't communicate the nuances in lines as well as the obvious rhythms.

Also, never say you're too old to learn a new thing, no one is ever too old!

[Geek99]

Have you tried doing so whilst having small children ? Not always easy to find the time

[lowdown]

Excuses, excuses and nothing but excuses.
Teach them to sight read as well. All sit down and learn together. Make it a family thing.
I dunno....families ain't what they used to be.

[JamesBass]

[quote name='Geek99' timestamp='1481797472' post='3195168']
Have you tried doing so whilst having small children ? Not always easy to find the time
[/quote]
No one has said anything about families and children etc. But of course I appreciate not everyone is in the music for a career like I am. I make time regardless of what else is going on in my life as playing music is my career.

Learning theory and learning to read is, or at least can be, a quick and easy process. It's all about smart and relevant practicing!

[Geek99]

I I meant being too old isn't the only excuse;my combo approach comes from lack of time