Hands up if you thought EVH invented tapping...

[leftybassman392]

Think again:

[url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7M8L1rAUsI"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7M8L1rAUsI[/url]

[RhysP]

There was a guy who worked for Gretsch called Jimmie Webster that published a book on his tapping technique (he called it his "Touch System) in 1952.

[leftybassman392]

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1481488418' post='3192675']
There was a guy who worked for Gretsch called Jimmie Webster that published a book on his tapping technique (he called it his "Touch System) in 1952.
[/quote]

It'll be interesting to see how far back it goes.

[arthurhenry]

Sheehan, Billy Gibbons and Steve Hackett were all doing it before EVH. None of this matters of course.

[RhysP]

Paganini apparently used a two handed tapping technique on the violin.

[MoonBassAlpha]

Lots of people apply the technique to playing the piano, apparently.

[AustinArto]

I like the bit towards the end of the clip where he's using his right hand to tap a bass part and strum the chords, it's a pretty nice feel actually!

[Paul S]

To be fair to EVH (who I actually believe is a compete cock), he has never actually claimed he invented the technique, only that he did things with it that hadn't been done before. Which is why the world of rock guitar's collective jaw dropped when 'Eruption' first got played. At risk of sounding like Blue, you perhaps had to have been there to understand the quantum leap in technique this represented. Hendrix redefined the way electric guitar was played, so did EVH.

[ead]

[quote name='Paul S' timestamp='1481528689' post='3192863']
To be fair to EVH (who I actually believe is a compete cock), he has never actually claimed he invented the technique, only that he did things with it that hadn't been done before. Which is why the world of rock guitar's collective jaw dropped when 'Eruption' first got played. At risk of sounding like Blue, you perhaps had to have been there to understand the quantum leap in technique this represented. Hendrix redefined the way electric guitar was played, so did EVH.
[/quote]

But did he play 4 hour bar gigs for nowt?

[Dan Dare]

[quote name='ead' timestamp='1481528895' post='3192866']


But did he play 4 hour bar gigs for nowt?
[/quote]

Probably did in the early days...

[leftybassman392]

[quote name='Paul S' timestamp='1481528689' post='3192863']
To be fair to EVH (who I actually believe is a compete cock), he has never actually claimed he invented the technique, only that he did things with it that hadn't been done before. Which is why the world of rock guitar's collective jaw dropped when 'Eruption' first got played. At risk of sounding like Blue, you perhaps had to have been there to understand the quantum leap in technique this represented. Hendrix redefined the way electric guitar was played, so did EVH.
[/quote]

It's a fair point (and I get the feeling that it's more a case of other people claiming it on his behalf). I was there myself and at the time I was certainly happy to give him credit for it (so to speak... ). I also remember Stanley Jordan, who was developing the technique in a different direction at about the same time but whom nobody seems to remember these days...


[url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3gHtPLXQOI"][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3gHtPLXQOI[/media][/url]

Edited December 12, 2016 by leftybassman392

[Barking Spiders]

Certainly did know it wasn't EVH but I curse whoever did . Unfortunately tapping and sweep picking have led to the rise of soul less, mechanical fretw***ers across the globe.

[SH73]

Sure tapping was used by violin players centuries ago x

[leftybassman392]

[quote name='Barking Spiders' timestamp='1481538250' post='3192967']
Certainly did know it wasn't EVH but I curse whoever did . Unfortunately tapping and [b]sweep picking[/b] have led to the rise of soul less, mechanical fretw***ers across the globe.
[/quote]

Ah yes. That would be this man then...

[url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7T9fuf1bLE"][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7T9fuf1bLE[/media][/url]

If I'm honest I'm not really a Gambale fan myself (although I don't have an issue with sweeping as such). As always though, it's not the technique so much as the way it's used.

[Guest bassman7755]

[quote name='leftybassman392' timestamp='1481536418' post='3192945'] I also remember Stanley Jordan, who was developing the technique in a different direction at about the same time but whom nobody seems to remember these days... [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3gHtPLXQOI"][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3gHtPLXQOI[/media][/url] [/quote]

The problem I have with stanley jordan is that he sounds like two good guitarists rather than one great one - unless you actually know its one person instead of two theres really nothing special about it so hes great to watch but very "meh" to just listen to.

Edited December 12, 2016 by bassman7755

[Barking Spiders]

Nah, still not persuaded re the virtues of tapping. Jazz /rock fusion? No thanks. To my ears one of the dullest of genres.

[Conan]

[quote name='ead' timestamp='1481528895' post='3192866']
But did he play 4 hour bar gigs for nowt?
[/quote]

[Lord Sausage]

I'm sure there was some jazz guy doing it in the 30's!

Edited December 12, 2016 by Lord Sausage

[spectoremg]

[quote name='Barking Spiders' timestamp='1481538250' post='3192967']
Certainly did know it wasn't EVH but I curse whoever did . Unfortunately tapping and sweep picking have led to the rise of soul less, mechanical fretw***ers across the globe.
[/quote]The same could be said of Mark King

[Barking Spiders]

And indeed many do say it of MK but not me. There are many who diss slap bass but I'm not one of them. We all have our musical beefs and one of mine is guitar shredding

[fleabag]

Oooh, some nasty hateful jazz rock fusion shredding stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NZopolc88U

[spectoremg]

[quote name='Barking Spiders' timestamp='1481621188' post='3193709']
And indeed many do say it of MK but not me. There are many who diss slap bass but I'm not one of them. We all have our musical beefs and one of mine is guitar shredding
[/quote]So all shredding is bad and all slap is good then?

[RhysP]

[quote name='spectoremg' timestamp='1481654343' post='3194090']
So all shredding is bad and all slap is good then?
[/quote]

Of course - this is Basschat, where opinion is fact.

[blue]

[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1481561582' post='3193304']
I'm sure there was some jazz guy doing it in the 30's!
[/quote]

There were bass players slapping and popping their double basses back in the 30s, easy to find on YouTube.

Blue

[MarkJB]

[quote name='fleabag' timestamp='1481628273' post='3193804']
Oooh, some nasty hateful jazz rock fusion shredding stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NZopolc88U
[/quote]

Good for RSI and that's about it! ;-)